WHICH IS BETTER? ZHI WEI DOU SHU OR BAZI?
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WHICH IS BETTER? ZHI WEI DOU SHU OR BAZI?
WHICH IS MORE DETAIL? BAZI OR ZHI WEI DOU SHU? WHY? CAN ANY1 ANSWER ME? :smt006 [/b]
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WHICH IS BETTER? ZHI WEI DOU SHU OR BAZI?
A LITTLE HISTORY TIME HERE: BAZI ORIGIN IS ATTRIBUTED TO SCHOLAR LI XU ZHONG OF TANG DYNASTY (AD 618-907),BUT MADE POPULAR BY XU ZI PING IN SONG DYNASTY (AD960-1279). ZHI WEI DOU SHU WAS FIRST RECOEDED BY A SONG DYNASTY ASTROLOGER CH'EN T'U NAN OR CH'AN TZE YEE IN AD960-1280. :smt002
Why is this question always asked? Each system has its advantage.
For Zhi Wei, it is easy to learn at the beginning, then you need to read lots of documents to get into deep.
For bazi, it is hard to learn at the beginning, then you also need to read lots of documents to get into the deep.
Each system had its own blind parts. The blind parts on this sytem will be covered by another system. You go find it by yourself.
For Zhi Wei, it is easy to learn at the beginning, then you need to read lots of documents to get into deep.
For bazi, it is hard to learn at the beginning, then you also need to read lots of documents to get into the deep.
Each system had its own blind parts. The blind parts on this sytem will be covered by another system. You go find it by yourself.
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Hi there,
Yoyocue is correct. Each system has their strengths and their weaknesses. Using two systems is like looking at the same person but from a different angle. You get a different perspective, a different angle and a different emphasis... but it is still the same person.
As for learning, well, both are very different in its approach. So some people learn BaZi better and others Zi Wei. It is a preference really...
But ultimately it boils down to the the skill of the astrologer.
The Pilgrim
Yoyocue is correct. Each system has their strengths and their weaknesses. Using two systems is like looking at the same person but from a different angle. You get a different perspective, a different angle and a different emphasis... but it is still the same person.
As for learning, well, both are very different in its approach. So some people learn BaZi better and others Zi Wei. It is a preference really...
But ultimately it boils down to the the skill of the astrologer.
The Pilgrim
Bazi vs Zi Wei Dou Shu
Hi KarenChantel,
Actually both are equally good & accurate. It depends on what you want to achieve.
As Feng Shui is all about the energy around us. We can use Bazi to analyze ourself and to see what we are made up of, our strengths and weakness and how we will react to the environment in terms of element strength in different sectors, element strength at different time dimension. In actual fact Feng Shui & Bazi are inter-related as they use the 64 Hexagram which are derived from the Heaven Stems & Earthly Branch combinations.
When we want to do a proper house audit, we need to do the Bazi of the occupants in order to determine his self element, strength and also his favorable & unfavorable elements. We use the Luo Pan to check the facing & sitting directions of the house, and determine the hexagram & the type of energy coming in. We then find a solution or cure which may require the use of element to reduce the effect of the Sha Chi. The excess use of element in that sector may not be good to that particular person and if we had not done his Bazi, we may cause more harm than good.
Those who want to improve their practice & skill in Feng Shui need to learn & understand Bazi.
Thank you,
With Best Regards,
astroace
Actually both are equally good & accurate. It depends on what you want to achieve.
As Feng Shui is all about the energy around us. We can use Bazi to analyze ourself and to see what we are made up of, our strengths and weakness and how we will react to the environment in terms of element strength in different sectors, element strength at different time dimension. In actual fact Feng Shui & Bazi are inter-related as they use the 64 Hexagram which are derived from the Heaven Stems & Earthly Branch combinations.
When we want to do a proper house audit, we need to do the Bazi of the occupants in order to determine his self element, strength and also his favorable & unfavorable elements. We use the Luo Pan to check the facing & sitting directions of the house, and determine the hexagram & the type of energy coming in. We then find a solution or cure which may require the use of element to reduce the effect of the Sha Chi. The excess use of element in that sector may not be good to that particular person and if we had not done his Bazi, we may cause more harm than good.
Those who want to improve their practice & skill in Feng Shui need to learn & understand Bazi.
Thank you,
With Best Regards,
astroace
Re: Bazi vs Zi Wei Dou Shu
When we want to do a proper house audit, we need to do the Bazi of the occupants in order to determine his self element, strength and also his favorable & unfavorable elements. We use the Luo Pan to check the facing & sitting directions of the house, and determine the hexagram & the type of energy coming in. We then find a solution or cure which may require the use of element to reduce the effect of the Sha Chi. The excess use of element in that sector may not be good to that particular person and if we had not done his Bazi, we may cause more harm than good.
Just to add on:
After decoding the House Qi using Xuan Kong Flying Stars(XKFS), it is important that we know what aare we trying to observe and so that a specific cure can be applied.
The mapping should tell you the combination of stars at the sector which influence certain tenants on certain issues related to probably health, why is he exceptionally having illness on bladder or health for instance.
All this could be inspect and provide cure in a much systemic action, using five elements transformation principals.
I myself uses ZWDS to supplement my BAZI reading to get faster results on eventual happenings in life that was pin point by bazi. Different schools or practitioners will have different approach. And the approach changes as they pracxtise more.
Funkyshen
Just to add on:
After decoding the House Qi using Xuan Kong Flying Stars(XKFS), it is important that we know what aare we trying to observe and so that a specific cure can be applied.
The mapping should tell you the combination of stars at the sector which influence certain tenants on certain issues related to probably health, why is he exceptionally having illness on bladder or health for instance.
All this could be inspect and provide cure in a much systemic action, using five elements transformation principals.
I myself uses ZWDS to supplement my BAZI reading to get faster results on eventual happenings in life that was pin point by bazi. Different schools or practitioners will have different approach. And the approach changes as they pracxtise more.
Funkyshen
need 3rd opinion
had my and husband's birthdates read by both zwds and bazi. reports are different. need a 3rd opinion. can someone here help
my dob: 13/1/1958 22:05 hrs (+8 gmt)
spouse dob: 30/12/1954 07:55 hrs (+8gmt)
currently having some marital problem. i'm trying to repair relationship but spouse not making the effort. we are married for 26 yrs.
marlyn
my dob: 13/1/1958 22:05 hrs (+8 gmt)
spouse dob: 30/12/1954 07:55 hrs (+8gmt)
currently having some marital problem. i'm trying to repair relationship but spouse not making the effort. we are married for 26 yrs.
marlyn
zi wei do shu
i can see that zi wei is much more complicated.
ba zhi quite common nowadays..
zi wei a bit rare knowledge
ba zhi quite common nowadays..
zi wei a bit rare knowledge
Every system has their own pros and cons however, being a practitioner myself, I believe that ZWDS is a much more insightful system but then again, this is obviously my biased opinion. :smt002
Whether the consultation is successful and accurate or not depends greatly on the skills and experience of the practitioner therefore, it is not conclusive to debate on which system of astrology is better.
It is up to an individual's affinity to meet the appropriate practitioner too as this world is so huge in our perspective.
Whether the consultation is successful and accurate or not depends greatly on the skills and experience of the practitioner therefore, it is not conclusive to debate on which system of astrology is better.
It is up to an individual's affinity to meet the appropriate practitioner too as this world is so huge in our perspective.
"Qi Men Dun Jia"
is closer to zi wei dou shu.
Qi men is closer to
astronomy or meteorology
to tell what the environment holds such as earthquakes.
solar flares
wind patterns
gravity
those things are definitely part of feng shui and part of science a bit
you observe your surroundings and find the truth so to speak.
bits and pieces can be used in science as well.
so in essence.
it sells the over all picture that can change the fate of things.
by observation.
say there is a solar flare then all your enemies electronics would be rendered useless and that would be time to attack the enemy
or there is a tidal wave
perhaps you are using a wind attack etc.
it is using the earth and the universe in your favor because you know what it will likely do.
zhuge liang or nicknamed kong ming in warring states period is said to have used this to predict the wind movements
to defeat Cao Cao's navy with fire.
if you use poison gas or chemical warfare
meteorology you can use this as well outside war.
predict the weather patterns.
you best study then.
is closer to zi wei dou shu.
Qi men is closer to
astronomy or meteorology
to tell what the environment holds such as earthquakes.
solar flares
wind patterns
gravity
those things are definitely part of feng shui and part of science a bit
you observe your surroundings and find the truth so to speak.
bits and pieces can be used in science as well.
so in essence.
it sells the over all picture that can change the fate of things.
by observation.
say there is a solar flare then all your enemies electronics would be rendered useless and that would be time to attack the enemy
or there is a tidal wave
perhaps you are using a wind attack etc.
it is using the earth and the universe in your favor because you know what it will likely do.
zhuge liang or nicknamed kong ming in warring states period is said to have used this to predict the wind movements
to defeat Cao Cao's navy with fire.
if you use poison gas or chemical warfare
meteorology you can use this as well outside war.
predict the weather patterns.
you best study then.
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