Sign for Liars

Raman Deep Singh · Post by **Raman Deep Singh** » Wed Nov 18, 2009 6:50 pm

Hi Everyone,
Forum seems to be very quiet for last few days.
So I thought to put up a query for getting more description
and Charts too for people related to this trait.

What are the signs for LIARS in chart.
From what we can make out that the native is a liar and i am not talking about disease, i am talking about lying purposly.

There can be many reasons for lying but still it is an art to make sure
that native gets away with it.

Please put up charts too of people, whom you know lie alot with bad intention.
Also put up for view regarding this.

Regards,
Raman

asro · Post by **asro** » Thu Nov 19, 2009 7:03 am

Hi Raman

Signs for Liars -- Simple  --> They Lie    

   

Sat/Rahu  affliction to Mer, Moon may cause a person to lie.  As communication and mind get inflicted by manipulation a person may tend to lie. The correct combination i do not know but i guess these  planets play a important role to make a person lie.  
I'll wait untill other members share their thoughts, in meantime i hunt for some Liars  

warmly
Asro

projenator · Post by **projenator** » Thu Nov 19, 2009 12:39 pm

Agreed, affliction to Mercury, especially Saturn, rahu also makes logical sense but I have not seen concrete examples

ChanDubai · Post by **ChanDubai** » Thu Nov 19, 2009 2:05 pm

My humble view and observations trust me.. i am not lying

2H of speech afflictions to 2H and 2L from Malifics Rahu/Sat/Mercury Rahu in 2H..even Ketu But Ketu in 2H makes person tell Lies for good cause why because i have Ketu in 2H!! and i am Sales guy as well...hahhahahah.....

 :smt005

Raman Deep Singh · Post by **Raman Deep Singh** » Fri Nov 20, 2009 10:26 pm

Can we have examples also along with explanations.
It ma help in getting better understaniding

regards,
Raman

projenator · Post by **projenator** » Sat Nov 21, 2009 5:02 am

ChanDubai wrote:My humble view and observations trust me.. i am not lying

2H of speech afflictions to 2H and 2L from Malifics Rahu/Sat/Mercury Rahu in 2H..even Ketu But Ketu in 2H makes person tell Lies for good cause why because i have Ketu in 2H!! and i am Sales guy as well...hahhahahah..... :smt005

Ketu, in my observation does not lead to outright distortion of facts but makes a person secretive in a way that he might not willingly reveal the negatives, something which sales people always do.

ChanDubai · Post by **ChanDubai** » Sat Nov 21, 2009 5:19 am

Hi Proj,

You put it very nicely!!........with appropriate words... i am very poor in English!!...:-(

It's  true not just for my own chart i have seen some other charts as well with Ketu in 2H...

Thanks  

projenator wrote:
ChanDubai wrote:My humble view and observations trust me.. i am not lying

2H of speech afflictions to 2H and 2L from Malifics Rahu/Sat/Mercury Rahu in 2H..even Ketu But Ketu in 2H makes person tell Lies for good cause why because i have Ketu in 2H!! and i am Sales guy as well...hahhahahah..... :smt005

Ketu, in my observation does not lead to outright distortion of facts but makes a person secretive in a way that he might not willingly reveal the negatives, something which sales people always do.

govardhanvt · Post by **govardhanvt** » Sat Nov 21, 2009 11:03 am

From Sarvarthachintamani

"The lord of the second must, as a matter of fact, occupy some house and that must be owned by some planet. This planet in its turn must occupy some Navamsa, which in its turn, possesses a lord of it own. If this Navamsadhipathi or lord of the Navamsa happens to be Sani or kuja the person becomes a great liar"

harrypotter1717 · Post by **harrypotter1717** » Sat Nov 21, 2009 11:28 am

I HAVE SEEN PEOPLE WHO HAVE MALEFICS IN 6TH AND 2ND ARE LIARS...EVERY BODY LIES IN LIFE...MALEFICS IN 6 TH WILL LIE TO COME OVER ENEMIES.
2 ND IS THE PLACES OF SPEECH....SO MALEFIC IN 2ND WILL LIE.... BUT HOUSE IS WELL-PLACED PERSON WILL LIE FOR GOOD....

SOME YOGAS OF LIARS....
- VIPREETA RAJAYOGA
-MATIBHRAMNA YOGA
-SHASA YOGA
-VACHNA CHORABHITI YOGA

Raman Deep Singh · Post by **Raman Deep Singh** » Sat Nov 21, 2009 2:41 pm

Hi Harry,
First of all please DONOT write in upper case/ capital letters.I hope u realise it seems rude and tantamount to
shouting.

Secondly, How can u co-relate mentioned yogas to liars. Yogas cannot be starting point of derivation of finding out
liar from chart.Are you using logic of 2nd and 6th lord malefic for this.

Personally i think we shud look for further explanation,though placement of malefic in 2nd house is quite logical
but still i dnt think it can be safe bet to use this directly.

Regards,
Raman

mysbcrs · Post by **mysbcrs** » Sun Nov 22, 2009 4:30 am

Since Ramalinga Raju (of Satyam of-course!) is a liar and a agreat one at that and that too by own admission, I think it may be worthwhile to look at his chart.

CRS

ChanDubai · Post by **ChanDubai** » Sun Nov 22, 2009 5:09 am

Unverified Birth data of Scamalinga Raju..

If i am not mistaken one of our forum astrologer has rectified his TOB

Natal Chart

Date:          September 16, 1954
Time:          9:22:am
Time Zone:     5:30:00 (East of GMT)
Place:         81 E 32' 00", 16 N 32' 00"
              Bhimavaram, India
Altitude:      0.00 meters

Lunar Yr-Mo:   Jaya - Bhadrapada
Tithi:         Krishna Chaturthi (Me) (16.95% left)
Vedic Weekday: Thursday (Ju)
Nakshatra:     Bharani (Ve) (83.80% left)
Yoga:          Vyaghata (Ve) (62.34% left)

ChanDubai · Post by **ChanDubai** » Sun Nov 22, 2009 5:36 am

Now if we assume the DATA is correct.. then just look at the chart with regards to his Lies.. it is very evident no need to do any deep study as for as his lie trait.. it is clearly visible!!

2H is under PaapaKartari 2L is heavily afflicted by Rahu and Sat now see his 2H is been aspected Exalted Jup gave him some saving grace and continuation But the results/truth has to come out when appropriate Dasa bukti are in operation..

Now i leave it to the other learned members out there....

ChanDubai

sunsri · Post by **sunsri** » Sun Nov 22, 2009 5:46 am

I have Saturn, Moon and Ketu in 2H - Mithuna.

There have been many times when i neither confirm or deny facts and let people decide/assume. This has led people to get upset with me for not conveying/confirming the truth.

harrypotter1717 · Post by **harrypotter1717** » Sun Nov 22, 2009 4:04 pm

hello ramanji!
1st of all thx 4 attention!

i think u will agree with me that
malefics in 6th will remove enemies frm lyf or in short malefics in 6th and 12th are good.
If it be saturn or rahu-ketu,he will come over 2 enemies by tact. 4 that he can lie also.person will b threat 2 enemies.i have tested this.

as regards yogas,sasa yoga is formed due 2 saturn,they are gr8 diplomats.person will lie 4 good here.plz read text of other yogas you will understand.i found sasa yoga in horoscopes of lawyers.
Thx.

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