As I do readings, I think sometimes there are some misconceptions about what astrology is, and what it can do. These are just my own ramblings. Your thoughts are encouraged, to start a dialogue to prevent misunderstandings here at this forum, to get others' viewpoints, and perhaps answer your own questions.
Astrology is the most specific science available. A highly competent reader can tell you how many brothers/sisters you have, when you will die and the manner of that death, what kind of childhood you had, childhood illnesses, when you will get married, when you will get divorced and why, how many children you will have, your aunt's profession and career, your sister's illness as a child, where you lost your socks, your favorite color, difficulties you will have with your boss, when you will get fired, when you will buy a house, what your karma is in this life, your flaws and the things you need to work on in this life to be successful, when it is a good time to take your vacation, what your current health status is and how to heal, and this isn't even scratching the surface!
An astrologer studies for years. It is not unusual for an astrologer to study for DECADES before giving their first reading. First, the astrologer must learn all the fundamentals, then begins an intensive understanding of their own birth chart...and seeing everything above in their own chart, and more. An astrologer, if he/she is a good one, also undertakes an often painful and unflinching examination into their own foibles and errors in this life, with the mind of improving their own karma and relationship with their god, whatever he/she conceives "god" to be. There is no room for rationalizations; only honesty about themselves. For this reason, astrology is also a spiritual journey. You will find some of the wisest people on the planet who study astrology, IMHO, at least the wisest about themselves! :)
Because astrology is as much a spiritual endeavor as it is locating your socks, it is necessary to approach astrology with a certain respect. Consider a plan to the universe that makes all these things possible to know and understand just by knowing the time/date/place of your birth! The infinite possibilities of who you could have been, but became in this life, are all known simply by your birth, not a general idea of your personality, but even how you sing in the shower and hate cats! Can the magnitude of this be fully understood by anyone? Can anyone comprehend how astrology can find your socks for you or your lost car keys simply by when the question was asked? (horary). "Knock and it shall be opened unto you; ask and it shall be given." Astrology answers that promise!
The design and attention to detail that is available is only limited by the astrologer's skill, yet it is a part of this wonderful science given to us here on earth, each seemingly insignificant detail of your life! I recall the Bible verse that says that God will even note the fall of a bird, so how would He not know of each hair of your head. (paraphrased)
I ask that you consider astrology in its proper way. Approach astrology questions with the awe, reverence, and respect it deserves. Astrologers are the seers of this time on earth. Astrologers are used to guide nations and make difficult political decisions that affect millions. Treat each of us with the respect due to us...if for no other reason than we have studied astrology before you were even born, those of us who are getting older! :) Astrologers are the bridge between the infinite universe and you! They give a voice to the intricate plan that was designed by each individual person...even your pet snake! What each undertakes to give to you, their promise to themselves and to you to give you this information, is a thing requiring great gratitude to each of us!
I hope you will not see this request as self-promotion, because I see, better than most, my own failures, and see, better than most, how much the universe knows about me...so I am just in awe at the design that made me...a miracle with flaws...just like you! And I approach astrology with all the humility that I can muster, because it comes naturally when seeing into the infinite.
Can this not be celebrated and approached with reverence, the mundane and the sublime, all at the same time? Time! Ah! That is what it's all about. Time. Look up next time you're outside on a clear night. You will see how far are the stars, yet each one is looking down on you as you look up at them! As above, so below. The microcosm reflects the macrocosm. Is it not a thing of wonder? Smile! Then give gratitude for this design of the universe of which you are a part. Surely you can see how important you are when you reflect the very heavens! And when you begin to understand how important you are, a part of a great design, then can you give any person less respect, or less reverence, or less gratitude than is their due? Please remember this while on this forum!
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To Youdah
A wonderful exchange Sir!,
At last we come across a real Devotee of this 'Science'. Do carry on enlightening the Astrology forums.
RishiRahul
At last we come across a real Devotee of this 'Science'. Do carry on enlightening the Astrology forums.
RishiRahul
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Much of this makes sense unfortunately there are not that many true astrologers who have take the time to study and understand this, while I know something of astrology and can even do my chart, I do not consider myself an astrologer. I do not feel I understand this area with enough depth.
But to often people get a generalized reading from what it supposed to be an astrologer, and it does not go as deeply as what you have described.
Even with what I consider to be my limited knowledge, I have learned to take what I know to help with relationships, I read Linda Goodman's Love Signs years ago, and began using it not just as an idea for how the signs interact in loving male / female relationships, but also I found that it helped me just to interact with others of different signs.
Historically it is fact that astrology was used in medical diagnosis, I remember reading that surgery is something that you need to take the astrological influence into account.
It would be very interesting if someone were to do a study were done on this, unfortunately astrology is ignored when taking care of one's health.
It sounds as though your have spent a long time understanding this topic, while there are many good books out that can get people started, some do share that there is a need for further study, but not enough.
Great post.
But to often people get a generalized reading from what it supposed to be an astrologer, and it does not go as deeply as what you have described.
Even with what I consider to be my limited knowledge, I have learned to take what I know to help with relationships, I read Linda Goodman's Love Signs years ago, and began using it not just as an idea for how the signs interact in loving male / female relationships, but also I found that it helped me just to interact with others of different signs.
Historically it is fact that astrology was used in medical diagnosis, I remember reading that surgery is something that you need to take the astrological influence into account.
It would be very interesting if someone were to do a study were done on this, unfortunately astrology is ignored when taking care of one's health.
It sounds as though your have spent a long time understanding this topic, while there are many good books out that can get people started, some do share that there is a need for further study, but not enough.
Great post.
As always, Rishirahul, you say such nice things about me! Thank you! If I become as good of a reader as you are, then I will feel competent! Where have you been lately, by the way???
Dessa, medical astrology is very alive and well. In fact, recently this is a subject that is getting a lot of my attention. Perhaps the true pioneers of this branch of astrology in the USA is the Rosicrucians. A visit to their website, and reading of some of their astrological literature about health and healing, can keep you busy for months! Their method is very exact (which I like) as well as remedies and healing. Personally, I wouldn't dream of having any medical procedure done under an inauspicious transit! As far as the Rosicrucians, so far I've found their observations 100% accurate and effective. Their printing and wide distribution of ephemeris's and Table of Houses is a staple of any USA astrologer.
And, nice to see a new face, Dessa. So far I've enjoyed reading your posts. Welcome!
Dessa, medical astrology is very alive and well. In fact, recently this is a subject that is getting a lot of my attention. Perhaps the true pioneers of this branch of astrology in the USA is the Rosicrucians. A visit to their website, and reading of some of their astrological literature about health and healing, can keep you busy for months! Their method is very exact (which I like) as well as remedies and healing. Personally, I wouldn't dream of having any medical procedure done under an inauspicious transit! As far as the Rosicrucians, so far I've found their observations 100% accurate and effective. Their printing and wide distribution of ephemeris's and Table of Houses is a staple of any USA astrologer.
And, nice to see a new face, Dessa. So far I've enjoyed reading your posts. Welcome!
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Thank you for your kind words and the info, I look forward to checking it out.
I have personally found two instances where what I have read about astrology and surgery matches what one author was writing, add to what I knwo of history showing that Astrology was part of the course for medical studies for centuries, it sounds like some of the information you mentioned is going to keep me busy good think I like to read and to learn.
thanks again
dessa
I have personally found two instances where what I have read about astrology and surgery matches what one author was writing, add to what I knwo of history showing that Astrology was part of the course for medical studies for centuries, it sounds like some of the information you mentioned is going to keep me busy good think I like to read and to learn.
thanks again
dessa
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The Rosicrucians are a religious organization, began, I believe, in the 1800s, much ahead of their time with their beliefs. I don't know too much about their philosophy except what I've read on their website...and I'm just beginning to read through it and understand it. Many of the teachings are somewhat esoteric but in tune with the application of astrological principles and other areas of psychic arts such as the wearing of amulets similar to the balancing principles of Ayurveda, and the reading of protective auras. Part of their beliefs, as I understand it, is in the emphasis on medical astrology, believing in the spiritual healing power and potential indicated by the individual's chart. Predicting the body's potential illnesses, and preventing them from occurring, if possible...but if not, ways to heal in ways that are indicated by the astrological chart. Their research is not just physical body, but mental states as well. Periods of depression, and times when psychic abilities are likely to occur, are just examples of what they've seen in planetary positions. From what I understand, they believe that God doesn't want people to suffer and feel disease, but to live full and happy lives, so prevention and healing are a large part of their philosophy. Quite a very detailed understanding of medical astrology, but I am just beginning to compare their research and knowledge with charts. So far, I've found that they are very accurate in their predictions/healing. Also an emphasis on the personality, which is a common area for astrology.
I was very interested in their use of the progressed moon and sun to uncover hidden potential for diseases. As I follow their rationale, and calculations, it is an entirely new way of looking at these charts that is astoundingly accurate. It is unfortunate that they are not more well known, because their observations/knowledge base/research is quite accurate. As an example, back problems ruled by mars, or saturn in aquarius; or blood poisoning occurring with an afflicted Jupiter; causes of cancer in different parts of the body; pathogenic states for all signs and planet positions; worry common when mercury in Pisces, etc.
And, welcome back! We missed you!
I was very interested in their use of the progressed moon and sun to uncover hidden potential for diseases. As I follow their rationale, and calculations, it is an entirely new way of looking at these charts that is astoundingly accurate. It is unfortunate that they are not more well known, because their observations/knowledge base/research is quite accurate. As an example, back problems ruled by mars, or saturn in aquarius; or blood poisoning occurring with an afflicted Jupiter; causes of cancer in different parts of the body; pathogenic states for all signs and planet positions; worry common when mercury in Pisces, etc.
And, welcome back! We missed you!
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Hey Youdah,
Can you give us the website link? Seems interesting..also the progression of moon thing...Very logical indeed!
I am deeply touched that you guys did miss me.... feels wanted. Thanks. I am always with the board..doing moderating,checking posts. But I relly do not know if I wi;ll get the time for detailed predictions in the board at least, for now.
RishiRahul
Can you give us the website link? Seems interesting..also the progression of moon thing...Very logical indeed!
I am deeply touched that you guys did miss me.... feels wanted. Thanks. I am always with the board..doing moderating,checking posts. But I relly do not know if I wi;ll get the time for detailed predictions in the board at least, for now.
RishiRahul
Rosicrucians
The term Rosicrucian (symbol: the Rose Cross) describes a secret society of mystics, allegedly formed in late mediaeval Germany, holding a doctrine "built on esoteric truths of the ancient past", which, "concealed from the average man, provide insight into nature, the physical universe and the spiritual realm. "
Between 1607 and 1616, two anonymous manifestos were published, first in Germany and later throughout Europe[citation needed]. These were Fama Fraternitatis RC (The Fame of the Brotherhood of RC) and Confessio Fraternitatis (The Confession of the Brotherhood of RC). The influence of these documents, presenting a "most laudable Order" of mystic-philosopher-doctors and promoting a "Universal Reformation of Mankind", gave rise to an enthusiasm called by its historian Dame Frances Yates the "Rosicrucian Enlightenment".
In later centuries many masonic and occult societies have claimed to derive their doctrines, in whole or in part, from the original Rosicrucians. Several modern societies, which date the beginning of the Order to earlier centuries, have been formed for the study of Rosicrucianism and allied subjects. However, many researchers[who?] on the history of Rosicrucianism argue that modern Rosicrucianists are in no sense directly linked to any real society of the early 17th century.
The Fama Fraternitatis presented the legend of a German doctor and mystic philosopher referred to as "Frater C.R.C." (later identified in a third manifesto as Christian Rosenkreuz, or "Roses-cross"). The year 1378 is presented as being the birth year of "our Christian Father," and it is stated that he lived 106 years. Having studied in the Middle East under various masters, he had failed to interest the powerful people of his time in the knowledge he had acquired and so instead had gathered a small circle of friends/disciples who founded the Order of RC (this can be similarly deduced to have occurred in 1407).
During Rosenkreuz's lifetime, the Order was said to consist of no more than eight members, each a doctor and a sworn bachelor who undertook to heal the sick without payment, to maintain a secret fellowship and to find a replacement for himself before he died. Three such generations had supposedly passed between c.1500 and c.1600 and scientific, philosophical and religious freedom had now grown so that the public might benefit from their knowledge, so that they were now seeking good men
The manifestos were and are not taken literally by many but rather regarded either as a hoax or as allegorical statements. The manifestos directly state: "We speak unto you by parables, but would willingly bring you to the right, simple, easy, and ingenuous exposition, understanding, declaration, and knowledge of all secrets". Others believe Rosenkreuz to be a pseudonym for a more famous historical figure, usually Francis Bacon.
It is evident that the first Rosicrucian manifesto was influenced by the work of the respected hermetic philosopher Heinrich Khunrath, of Hamburg, author of the Amphitheatrum Sapientiae Aeternae (1609), who was in turn influenced by John Dee, author of the Monas Hieroglyphica (1564). The invitation to the royal wedding in the Chymical Wedding of Christian Rosenkreutz opens with Dee's philosophical key, the Monas Heiroglyphica symbol. The writer also claimed the brotherhood possessed a book that resembled the works of Paracelsus.
Some say the writers were moral and religious reformers and utilized the techniques of chemistry (alchemy) and the sciences generally as media through which to publicize their opinions and beliefs. The authors of the Rosicrucian works generally favoured the Reformation and distanced themselves from the Roman church and Islam. The symbol of Martin Luther is a cross inside an open rose.
In his autobiography, Johann Valentin Andreae (1586–1654) claimed the anonymously published Chymische Hochzeit (Chymical Wedding of Christian Rosenkreutz) as one of his works, although he subsequently described it as a Ludibrium. However, in his later works, alchemy is the object of ridicule and is placed with music, art, theatre and astrology in the category of less serious sciences. His role in the origin of the Rosicrucian legend is controversial.[
Between 1607 and 1616, two anonymous manifestos were published, first in Germany and later throughout Europe[citation needed]. These were Fama Fraternitatis RC (The Fame of the Brotherhood of RC) and Confessio Fraternitatis (The Confession of the Brotherhood of RC). The influence of these documents, presenting a "most laudable Order" of mystic-philosopher-doctors and promoting a "Universal Reformation of Mankind", gave rise to an enthusiasm called by its historian Dame Frances Yates the "Rosicrucian Enlightenment".
In later centuries many masonic and occult societies have claimed to derive their doctrines, in whole or in part, from the original Rosicrucians. Several modern societies, which date the beginning of the Order to earlier centuries, have been formed for the study of Rosicrucianism and allied subjects. However, many researchers[who?] on the history of Rosicrucianism argue that modern Rosicrucianists are in no sense directly linked to any real society of the early 17th century.
The Fama Fraternitatis presented the legend of a German doctor and mystic philosopher referred to as "Frater C.R.C." (later identified in a third manifesto as Christian Rosenkreuz, or "Roses-cross"). The year 1378 is presented as being the birth year of "our Christian Father," and it is stated that he lived 106 years. Having studied in the Middle East under various masters, he had failed to interest the powerful people of his time in the knowledge he had acquired and so instead had gathered a small circle of friends/disciples who founded the Order of RC (this can be similarly deduced to have occurred in 1407).
During Rosenkreuz's lifetime, the Order was said to consist of no more than eight members, each a doctor and a sworn bachelor who undertook to heal the sick without payment, to maintain a secret fellowship and to find a replacement for himself before he died. Three such generations had supposedly passed between c.1500 and c.1600 and scientific, philosophical and religious freedom had now grown so that the public might benefit from their knowledge, so that they were now seeking good men
The manifestos were and are not taken literally by many but rather regarded either as a hoax or as allegorical statements. The manifestos directly state: "We speak unto you by parables, but would willingly bring you to the right, simple, easy, and ingenuous exposition, understanding, declaration, and knowledge of all secrets". Others believe Rosenkreuz to be a pseudonym for a more famous historical figure, usually Francis Bacon.
It is evident that the first Rosicrucian manifesto was influenced by the work of the respected hermetic philosopher Heinrich Khunrath, of Hamburg, author of the Amphitheatrum Sapientiae Aeternae (1609), who was in turn influenced by John Dee, author of the Monas Hieroglyphica (1564). The invitation to the royal wedding in the Chymical Wedding of Christian Rosenkreutz opens with Dee's philosophical key, the Monas Heiroglyphica symbol. The writer also claimed the brotherhood possessed a book that resembled the works of Paracelsus.
Some say the writers were moral and religious reformers and utilized the techniques of chemistry (alchemy) and the sciences generally as media through which to publicize their opinions and beliefs. The authors of the Rosicrucian works generally favoured the Reformation and distanced themselves from the Roman church and Islam. The symbol of Martin Luther is a cross inside an open rose.
In his autobiography, Johann Valentin Andreae (1586–1654) claimed the anonymously published Chymische Hochzeit (Chymical Wedding of Christian Rosenkreutz) as one of his works, although he subsequently described it as a Ludibrium. However, in his later works, alchemy is the object of ridicule and is placed with music, art, theatre and astrology in the category of less serious sciences. His role in the origin of the Rosicrucian legend is controversial.[
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The manifestos caused immense excitement throughout Europe: they declared the existence of a secret brotherhood of alchemists and sages who were preparing to transform the arts, sciences, religion, and political and intellectual landscape of Europe while wars of politics and religion ravaged the continent. The works were re-issued several times and followed by numerous pamphlets, favourable and otherwise. Between 1614 and 1620, about 400 manuscripts and books were published which discussed the Rosicrucian documents.
The peak of the so-called "Rosicrucianism furor" was reached when two mysterious posters appeared in the walls of Paris in 1622 within a few days of each other. The first one started with the saying "We, the Deputies of the Higher College of the Rose-Croix, do make our stay, visibly and invisibly, in this city (...)" and the second one ended with the words "The thoughts attached to the real desire of the seeker will lead us to him and him to us".
The legend inspired a variety of works, among them the works of Michael Maier (1568–1622) of Germany, Robert Fludd (1574–1637) and Elias Ashmole (1617–1692) of England, Teophilus Schweighardt Constantiens, Gotthardus Arthusius, Julius Sperber, Henricus Madathanus, Gabriel Naudé, Thomas Vaughan, and others.[6] In Elias Ashmole's Theatrum Chimicum britannicum (1650) he defends the Rosicrucians. Some later works with an impact on Rosicrucianism were the Opus magocabalisticum et theosophicum by George von Welling (1719), of alchemical and paracelsian inspiration, and the Aureum Vellus oder Goldenes Vliess by Hermann Fictuld in 1749.
Michael Maier was ennobled with the title Pfalzgraf (Count Palatine) by Rudolph II, Emperor and King of Hungary and King of Bohemia. He also was one of the most prominent defenders of the Rosicrucians, clearly transmitting details about the "Brothers of the Rose Cross" in his writings. Maier made the firm statement that the Brothers of R.C. exist to advance inspired arts and sciences, including Alchemy. Researchers of Maier's writings point out that he never claimed to have produced gold, nor did Heinrich Khunrath nor any of the other Rosicrucianists. Their writings point toward a symbolic and spiritual Alchemy, rather than an operative one. In both direct and veiled styles, these writings conveyed the nine stages of the involutive-evolutive transmutation of the threefold body of the human being, the threefold soul and the threefold spirit, among other esoteric knowledge related to the "Path of Initiation".
In his 1618 pamphlet, Pia et Utilissima Admonitio de Fratribus Rosae Crucis, Henrichus Neuhusius writes that the Rosicrucians left for the East due to the instability in Europe caused by the start of the Thirty Years' War, an idea afterwards echoed in 1710 by Samuel Ritcher, founder of the secret society of the Golden and Rosy Cross. More recently René Guénon, a researcher of the occult, presented this same idea in some of his works.[7] However, another eminent author on the Rosicrucians, Arthur Edward Waite, presents arguments that contradict this idea.[8] It was in this fertile field of discourse that many "Rosicrucian" societies arose. They were based on the occult tradition and inspired by the mystery of this "College of Invisibles".
Frater C.R.C. - Christian Rose Cross (symbolical representation)The literary works of the 16th and 17th centuries are full of enigmatic passages containing references to the Rose Cross, as in these lines (somewhat modernised):
“ For what we do presage is riot in grosse,
For we are brethren of the Rosie Crosse;
We have the Mason Word and second sight,
Things for to come we can foretell aright.
”
—Henry Adamson, The Muses' Threnodie (Perth, 1638).
The idea of such an order, exemplified by the network of astronomers, professors, mathematicians, and natural philosophers in 16th century Europe and promoted by men such as Johannes Kepler, Georg Joachim Rheticus, John Dee and Tycho Brahe, gave rise to the Invisible College, a precursor to the Royal Society formed during the 17th century. It was constituted by group of scientists who began to hold regular meetings in an attempt to share and develop knowledge acquired by experimental investigation. Among these were Robert Boyle, who wrote: "the cornerstones of the Invisible (or as they term themselves the Philosophical) College, do now and then honour me with their company...";[9] and John Wallis, who described those meetings in the following terms: "About the year 1645, while I lived in London (at a time when, by our civil wars, academical studies were much interrupted in both our Universities), ... I had the opportunity of being acquainted with divers worthy persons, inquisitive natural philosophy, and other parts of human learning; and particularly of what hath been called the New Philosophy or Experimental Philosophy. We did by agreements, divers of us, meet weekly in London on a certain day and hour, under a certain penalty, and a weekly contribution for the charge of experiments, with certain rules agreed amongst us, to treat and discourse of such affairs..."[
The peak of the so-called "Rosicrucianism furor" was reached when two mysterious posters appeared in the walls of Paris in 1622 within a few days of each other. The first one started with the saying "We, the Deputies of the Higher College of the Rose-Croix, do make our stay, visibly and invisibly, in this city (...)" and the second one ended with the words "The thoughts attached to the real desire of the seeker will lead us to him and him to us".
The legend inspired a variety of works, among them the works of Michael Maier (1568–1622) of Germany, Robert Fludd (1574–1637) and Elias Ashmole (1617–1692) of England, Teophilus Schweighardt Constantiens, Gotthardus Arthusius, Julius Sperber, Henricus Madathanus, Gabriel Naudé, Thomas Vaughan, and others.[6] In Elias Ashmole's Theatrum Chimicum britannicum (1650) he defends the Rosicrucians. Some later works with an impact on Rosicrucianism were the Opus magocabalisticum et theosophicum by George von Welling (1719), of alchemical and paracelsian inspiration, and the Aureum Vellus oder Goldenes Vliess by Hermann Fictuld in 1749.
Michael Maier was ennobled with the title Pfalzgraf (Count Palatine) by Rudolph II, Emperor and King of Hungary and King of Bohemia. He also was one of the most prominent defenders of the Rosicrucians, clearly transmitting details about the "Brothers of the Rose Cross" in his writings. Maier made the firm statement that the Brothers of R.C. exist to advance inspired arts and sciences, including Alchemy. Researchers of Maier's writings point out that he never claimed to have produced gold, nor did Heinrich Khunrath nor any of the other Rosicrucianists. Their writings point toward a symbolic and spiritual Alchemy, rather than an operative one. In both direct and veiled styles, these writings conveyed the nine stages of the involutive-evolutive transmutation of the threefold body of the human being, the threefold soul and the threefold spirit, among other esoteric knowledge related to the "Path of Initiation".
In his 1618 pamphlet, Pia et Utilissima Admonitio de Fratribus Rosae Crucis, Henrichus Neuhusius writes that the Rosicrucians left for the East due to the instability in Europe caused by the start of the Thirty Years' War, an idea afterwards echoed in 1710 by Samuel Ritcher, founder of the secret society of the Golden and Rosy Cross. More recently René Guénon, a researcher of the occult, presented this same idea in some of his works.[7] However, another eminent author on the Rosicrucians, Arthur Edward Waite, presents arguments that contradict this idea.[8] It was in this fertile field of discourse that many "Rosicrucian" societies arose. They were based on the occult tradition and inspired by the mystery of this "College of Invisibles".
Frater C.R.C. - Christian Rose Cross (symbolical representation)The literary works of the 16th and 17th centuries are full of enigmatic passages containing references to the Rose Cross, as in these lines (somewhat modernised):
“ For what we do presage is riot in grosse,
For we are brethren of the Rosie Crosse;
We have the Mason Word and second sight,
Things for to come we can foretell aright.
”
—Henry Adamson, The Muses' Threnodie (Perth, 1638).
The idea of such an order, exemplified by the network of astronomers, professors, mathematicians, and natural philosophers in 16th century Europe and promoted by men such as Johannes Kepler, Georg Joachim Rheticus, John Dee and Tycho Brahe, gave rise to the Invisible College, a precursor to the Royal Society formed during the 17th century. It was constituted by group of scientists who began to hold regular meetings in an attempt to share and develop knowledge acquired by experimental investigation. Among these were Robert Boyle, who wrote: "the cornerstones of the Invisible (or as they term themselves the Philosophical) College, do now and then honour me with their company...";[9] and John Wallis, who described those meetings in the following terms: "About the year 1645, while I lived in London (at a time when, by our civil wars, academical studies were much interrupted in both our Universities), ... I had the opportunity of being acquainted with divers worthy persons, inquisitive natural philosophy, and other parts of human learning; and particularly of what hath been called the New Philosophy or Experimental Philosophy. We did by agreements, divers of us, meet weekly in London on a certain day and hour, under a certain penalty, and a weekly contribution for the charge of experiments, with certain rules agreed amongst us, to treat and discourse of such affairs..."[
Rosicrucians
Modern Rosicrucians
During the late nineteenth and early twentieth centuries, various groups styled themselves Rosicrucian. The diverse groups who link themselves to a "Rosicrucian Tradition" can be divided into three categories: Esoteric Christian Rosicrucian groups, which profess Christ, Masonic Rosicrucian groups such as Societas Rosicruciana, and initiatory groups such as the Golden Dawn.
Esoteric Christian Rosicrucian schools provide esoteric knowledge related to the inner teachings of Christianity.
The Rosicrucian Fellowship, 1909/11. Teachings present the mysteries, in the form of esoteric knowledge, of which Christ spoke in Matthew 13:11 and Luke 8:10. The Fellowship seeks to prepare the individual through harmonious development of mind and heart in a spirit of unselfish service to mankind and an all-embracing altruism. According to it the Rosicrucian Order was founded in the year 1313 and is composed of twelve exalted Beings gathered around a thirteenth, Christian Rosenkreuz. These great Adepts have already advanced far beyond the cycle of rebirth; their mission is to prepare the whole wide world for a new phase in religion—which includes awareness of the inner worlds and the subtle bodies, and to provide safe guidance in the gradual awakening of man's latent spiritual faculties during the next six centuries toward the coming Age of Aquarius.
According to masonic writers the Order of the Rose Cross is expounded in a major Christian literary work that molded the subsequent spiritual views of the western civilization; The Divine Comedy (ca. 1308–1321) by Dante Alighieri.
Other Christian-Rosicrucian oriented bodies include;
Anthroposophical Society, 1912
Lectorium Rosicrucianum, 1935
Archeosophical Society, 1968
Freemasonic Rosicrucian bodies providing preparation either through direct study and/or through the practice of symbolic-initiatic journey.
Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite, 1801
Societas Rosicruciana in Anglia, 1866, in Scotia (SRIS; Scotland), in Civitatibus Foederatis (MSRICF/SRICF; United States) etc. This Masonic esoteric society reprinted the Rosicrucian manifestos in 1923. A well-known member was A.E.Waite
These groups generally speak of a lineal descent from earlier branches of the ancient Rosicrucian Order in England, France, Egypt, or other countries. The inner structure of these groups is based upon grades, initiations and titles.
Fraternitas Rosae Crucis, 1861
Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn, 1888
Order of the Temple of the Rosy Cross, 1912
Ancient Mystical Order Rosae Crucis, (AMORC), 1915
Rosicrucian Order Crotona Fellowship, 1924
Rose Cross Order / Orden Rosacruz, 1988
Swedish Misraim Alliance (Svenska Misraimförbundet), 1988
Ancient Order of the Rosicrucians, 1989
Confraternity of the Rose Cross, 1996
The Sophia Guild, 2000
Sodalitas Rosae Crucis (S.R.C.) et Solis Alati (S.S.A.), 2002/3
Order of the Hermetic Gold and Rose+Cross, 2002
Knights of the Militia Crucifera Evangelica, 2002
Oriental Rosicrucian Order, 2002
During the late nineteenth and early twentieth centuries, various groups styled themselves Rosicrucian. The diverse groups who link themselves to a "Rosicrucian Tradition" can be divided into three categories: Esoteric Christian Rosicrucian groups, which profess Christ, Masonic Rosicrucian groups such as Societas Rosicruciana, and initiatory groups such as the Golden Dawn.
Esoteric Christian Rosicrucian schools provide esoteric knowledge related to the inner teachings of Christianity.
The Rosicrucian Fellowship, 1909/11. Teachings present the mysteries, in the form of esoteric knowledge, of which Christ spoke in Matthew 13:11 and Luke 8:10. The Fellowship seeks to prepare the individual through harmonious development of mind and heart in a spirit of unselfish service to mankind and an all-embracing altruism. According to it the Rosicrucian Order was founded in the year 1313 and is composed of twelve exalted Beings gathered around a thirteenth, Christian Rosenkreuz. These great Adepts have already advanced far beyond the cycle of rebirth; their mission is to prepare the whole wide world for a new phase in religion—which includes awareness of the inner worlds and the subtle bodies, and to provide safe guidance in the gradual awakening of man's latent spiritual faculties during the next six centuries toward the coming Age of Aquarius.
According to masonic writers the Order of the Rose Cross is expounded in a major Christian literary work that molded the subsequent spiritual views of the western civilization; The Divine Comedy (ca. 1308–1321) by Dante Alighieri.
Other Christian-Rosicrucian oriented bodies include;
Anthroposophical Society, 1912
Lectorium Rosicrucianum, 1935
Archeosophical Society, 1968
Freemasonic Rosicrucian bodies providing preparation either through direct study and/or through the practice of symbolic-initiatic journey.
Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite, 1801
Societas Rosicruciana in Anglia, 1866, in Scotia (SRIS; Scotland), in Civitatibus Foederatis (MSRICF/SRICF; United States) etc. This Masonic esoteric society reprinted the Rosicrucian manifestos in 1923. A well-known member was A.E.Waite
These groups generally speak of a lineal descent from earlier branches of the ancient Rosicrucian Order in England, France, Egypt, or other countries. The inner structure of these groups is based upon grades, initiations and titles.
Fraternitas Rosae Crucis, 1861
Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn, 1888
Order of the Temple of the Rosy Cross, 1912
Ancient Mystical Order Rosae Crucis, (AMORC), 1915
Rosicrucian Order Crotona Fellowship, 1924
Rose Cross Order / Orden Rosacruz, 1988
Swedish Misraim Alliance (Svenska Misraimförbundet), 1988
Ancient Order of the Rosicrucians, 1989
Confraternity of the Rose Cross, 1996
The Sophia Guild, 2000
Sodalitas Rosae Crucis (S.R.C.) et Solis Alati (S.S.A.), 2002/3
Order of the Hermetic Gold and Rose+Cross, 2002
Knights of the Militia Crucifera Evangelica, 2002
Oriental Rosicrucian Order, 2002
Astromedicine
This has been very interesting, though I think I will need to learn a great deal more about astrology to really understand it all, it seems that all aspects of the chart, all the transits, must be considered, and the various relationships to the houses, but from what I understand it is more than looking at a Natal chart but comparing the person's natal chart with the Solar Return, it seems very involved, and must take a great deal of study.
Seems the little bit I have learned just confirms that there seems to be a great deal of relavence to astromedicine.
I did find an interesting site on Astromedicine is this one of your reference sources? http://www.rosicrucian.com/adh/adheng01.htm
It is a site associated with the Rosicrucian Fellowship.
dessa
Seems the little bit I have learned just confirms that there seems to be a great deal of relavence to astromedicine.
I did find an interesting site on Astromedicine is this one of your reference sources? http://www.rosicrucian.com/adh/adheng01.htm
It is a site associated with the Rosicrucian Fellowship.
dessa
Re: Astromedicine
My goodness! Did you swallow an encyclopedia? dessa wrote:This has been very interesting, though I think I will need to learn a great deal more about astrology to really understand it all, it seems that all aspects of the chart, all the transits, must be considered, and the various relationships to the houses, but from what I understand it is more than looking at a Natal chart but comparing the person's natal chart with the Solar Return, it seems very involved, and must take a great deal of study.
Seems the little bit I have learned just confirms that there seems to be a great deal of relavence to astromedicine.
I did find an interesting site on Astromedicine is this one of your reference sources? http://www.rosicrucian.com/adh/adheng01.htm
It is a site associated with the Rosicrucian Fellowship.
dessa
Yes, that is the link. http://www.rosicrucian.com/adh/adheng01.htm
Main website, and other information http://www.rosicrucian.com
LOL well no I didn't swallow an encyclopedia LOL but I do tend to try to find out about things, and learn what I can, so I thought if I am going to get into the views of astromedicine from the Rosicrucians, I should see what I can learn from their history.
For me I tend to try to learn as much as I can, it helps also to learn different views and perspectives since so much of history is more of a perceptional writing rather it is facts written fron the view point of the author but that doesn't always mean it is entirely accurate. At least that is my point of view.
Though I find the information on their site regarding to astromedicine to much deeper than my knowledge of astrology just something that shows I still have much to learn but I am thank you for the topic, because it has been fascinating.
dessa
LOL as far as the encyclopia goes, I do tend read encyclopedias and dictionaries for pleasure.
For me I tend to try to learn as much as I can, it helps also to learn different views and perspectives since so much of history is more of a perceptional writing rather it is facts written fron the view point of the author but that doesn't always mean it is entirely accurate. At least that is my point of view.
Though I find the information on their site regarding to astromedicine to much deeper than my knowledge of astrology just something that shows I still have much to learn but I am thank you for the topic, because it has been fascinating.
dessa
LOL as far as the encyclopia goes, I do tend read encyclopedias and dictionaries for pleasure.
You sound like me, too! A little off-topic, but I don't wander very often so maybe it will be forgiven. My dad used to sit around reading encyclopedias A-Z. He was one of the most intelligent men I ever met. Everytime something interested him beyond a superficial understanding in an encyclopedia, he'd do research on it. I picked up the habit, or the example. So, I do understand that part of you. Rings familiar, you see.
And, I did enjoy the info on the RC. I hadn't taken the time to look it up, because I was too busy reading their astrology stuff. Tonight I ended up printing some of what I'd downloaded, and it used up about a half-ream of paper just from the RC website. (So, I can read in bed).
It's fun for me to find someone to chat with about astrology. Not many around in Western...they're all hanging out in Vedic. And, I suppose those who were interested in astro, I've probably run off (because I get a bit annoyed with closed-minds, and insistence on errors against all evidence and explanation)! So, that's just to reassure you not to feel self-conscious about posting long. It's good, interesting, appreciated, and welcome.
Warm regards...
And, I did enjoy the info on the RC. I hadn't taken the time to look it up, because I was too busy reading their astrology stuff. Tonight I ended up printing some of what I'd downloaded, and it used up about a half-ream of paper just from the RC website. (So, I can read in bed).
It's fun for me to find someone to chat with about astrology. Not many around in Western...they're all hanging out in Vedic. And, I suppose those who were interested in astro, I've probably run off (because I get a bit annoyed with closed-minds, and insistence on errors against all evidence and explanation)! So, that's just to reassure you not to feel self-conscious about posting long. It's good, interesting, appreciated, and welcome.
Warm regards...
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