Rohiniranjan wrote:Dear Votive ji,Votive wrote:Sanjay Dutt was first arrested on April 26, 1993.
The first terrorist incident in Indian hinterland were the terrosist blasts in Bombay on Mar 12, 1993 (akin to the 9/11 of 2001 in USA). More than 300 people died.
The incident triggered by the notorious Dawood Ibrahim and others has subsequently brought in dozens of terrorist incidents in India. Sanjay Dutt, and this is the evidence on record upheld even by the Supreme Court, was in live contact with Anees Ibrahim, the brother of Dawood andknew of large scale smuggling of arms, recovered from his possesion too. Probably in any other system he would be in prison from then till now!
However, he has been convicted several times, appealed and finally now a convict for 3 and a half years.
In true contemporary Indian pysche, a celebrity is above the law and so has he remained and the media and others demonstrate a lot of sympathy for him!!
Having said that. All non astrological irrelevant facts as far as this discussion goes but probably his chart could also be looked at from this angle that what ..planets, transits, karakas, have actually been saving from and giving him so much of freedom over this period!
Solitude..now I have recieved!
votive
Thanks for injecting a very realistic aspect to this thread which Rishi Rahul ji has gotten some of us tied into and by
I was thinking from a preventive or leading angle (what leads people to get into such messes that can destroy ones high profile and even career such as we are seeing here in the horrendous misappropriation of travel claims by our Senate members, two of whom ironically used to be high profile media and news host and were at the other end of the stick for decades!). But it is true! What is it that seems to *protect* such high profile folks from judicial scrutiny. Through an astrological lens. All this, while remaining aware that the data we are working with might be wrong in the first place!
Jupiter the atmakaraka is in the 12th sign (whole sign) but creeps into the first house (equal house div), or is in the viscinity of lagna cusp (barely above 10 degrees) for sure! Jupiter is a benefic for scorpio but placed in the house of loss where the sukha/matri pada is placed. Not the best placement for atmakaraka. Lots of inner turmoil existed (during developmental phase, teens, bad company etc). Matrikaraka rahu is placed in 8th from the 4th in the company of gulika. Mother was a person from filmworld, of progressive nature, different culture and religion which I believe fits, Also early in rahu dasa-bhukti, Sanjay lost his mother. A fairly good performer, he gained a lot from movies but rahu-ketu axis on 5th-11th and gulika's association makes a person have bad company, bad leanings and affects scruples (conscience). He is probably quite an arrogant man (under the mask!).
The massacre (why are those increasing steadily all over the globe these past little while? Perhaps subject of another thread!) took place in 1993 but it must have been going on for a while and might even have brewed slowly as he got into it deeper and deeper!
Rahu is in the star of moon which is placed in the revealed 7th house where friendship-related padas are located. Atmakaraka retro mercury is (pardon my detour...) close to uranus who is placed between a budha-aditya yoga! Just something interesting as a margin-note Perhaps after autumn on 1987 when the influence of bad companions might have started leading to the mess. Drug experimentation or worse might be likely (fairly common in show-biz everywhere). Just by the known dates etc, Rahu seems to be the influence that got him involved and kept protected and so on, is what I would say if I was one who believe in blame-shifting to the planets (mars did this, jupiter did that!). The indications are there.
Jupiter from end of 1997 probably brought increasingly evidence to the fore and if that matches with the actual events from a juridic point of perspective, although in the chart jupiter is the weaker planet being devoid of vimshopaka bala, poor in dignity and avasthas! But it is atmakaraka and causes physical and mental anguish and at the same time is meant to open the nativity's eyes, and see himself in clearer light! It is ironical that only in rahu's bhukti, the axe finally fell. What pointed to the way of crime, is now pointing to the way of redemption, in a spiritual sense, From a physical, social way, there are difficult times ahead for the gentleman. Relatives and close family will be supportive, though.
FWIW, the above are the patterns I see, at this time, given the data and information etc.
Regards,
Rohiniranjan
Could the solitude, & the slow realisation be placed/blamed on the very nearing Saturn maha dasa?
Rishi