Sanjay Dutt- an analysis

[Pravin Kumar]

Rishiji,

My question is different. Every person in prison gets certain time on parole. Presently this spot fixing cricketer of Rajasthan Royals has been released, with two sureties, to get married.Similarly many criminals get temporary release on bail and they jump bail but they do get this temporary release on guarantee. When do you see Sanjay Dutt getting release in the near future? It could be 3 months from now or 6 months or even 1 year from now.

Pravin Kumar

[RishiRahul]

Hi,

Considering approximate birth details:= 29 July 1959 @ approx 14.45 hrs in Mumbai, India.

If the birth chart is precise the following would result; or else the dates
should be adjusted accordingly.

The first 6 to 20 days of April 2013 would bring some news (obviously about the jail thing) which would be adverse/e.g: jail; and also some saving grace/hope involved.
This 'hope; thing would be felt later at end 2013

The Rahu antar being 8th from Al affects image + transit ketu in Gl does not help to enhance image, & affects A4 adversely= we can expect a/some jail term.

At the positive side= Transit Jupiter enters the 8th. house & favorable from
natal moon= stroke of luck during the transit (june 2013 to May 2014). The Jupiter transit on A10 & UL May/June 2013 onwards is favorable for coming out of the jail term.

This transit Jupiter in Mithuna is also 5th. from Al. Also Saturn dasa begins April 2014 (during the Jupiter transit), & saturn is in Ketu star & Jupiter Sub.
Ketu & Jupiter both are significators of 5th. house & Jupiter is in 12.
Thus significator 5 is the constant factor.
This saturn dasa would give help from her daughter... a sort of happy
confinement/abroad for him.
Happy because Saturn cannot spoil his image (tell me why?) further in the long run, & can only make it firm/stable.For such images to be stable it is expected to take a beating first.

Making corrections with numerology= Oct 2013 to May 2014 would pave the way for the end of jail term.
Putrakarak & amatyakarak gets properly activated around mid 2015....?!

Due to lack of proper palm print more emphatic prediction cannot be made.

RishiRahul

Hello,

http://news.oneindia.in/2013/04/06/sanj ... 87851.html
The above is dated 6 April 2013

Strange that I had mentioned the date 6 to 20.

RishiRahul

Further to the above developments, Sanjay Dutt has requested for 6 months.
The result will be out on 16 April @ around10.30 hrs.

The transit moon in the 2nd. from natal moon, & 8th from natal lagna is not favorable.
Even then, I see some home/comfort being gained here, as also transit Jupiter has moved 20 degrees (last 3rd. portion of Taurus), squaring natal Venus.
The natural benefics Jupiter & Venus are square each other.
Square is not an easy transit; though Jupiter & Venus are hard benefics.

So the gain would not be with hitch/constraint.
(edited later)

Of course, predictions from celebrity charts can be wrong.  :smt003


RishiRahul

Hi,

One months extension freedom given to Sanjay Dutt.

How wonderful Jyotish is: The adverse moon's position, coupled with the 2 great benefics in aspect, but in square which upsets/hinders the progress expected by the benefics....!


May 2013 shows a lack of support to his wishes; even then no imprisonment is seen.
Which may mean that there would be some other wish hurt, like from/due to a foreign visit of some kind/ professional related matter.

Mars sookshma on/around the 9th May 2013 gives activity.

RishiRahul

Strange again that Jyotish is......

News on 10h. May 2013:= (9th. May was predicted above as giving activity)
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/new ... 986334.cms

11/12 May 2013 gives a hopeful positive activity, probably behind the scenes, as rahu sextiles saturn + with jup/venus remaining on moon + mercury in applying aspect to saturn. These aspects are restricted by saturn square sun (govt restriction)=== The positives are more than the negative, but restricting.

The present target date for surrendering is by 18th.May 2013.
No jailing in jail is seen, but more restrictions would be imposed to cause frustration.
Astro numero Hunch= the restriction/disappointment could be on some shooting abroad.

Keeping my fingers crossed.

RishiRahul

Oops! he was jailed on 16th May 2013.

I was wrong in my deduction regarding not being jailed at this time, though I had mentioned/seen that he would be jailed/caged in the present varshaphal year.

I learn from my failures.
Failure can happen when I do not corroborate details with a clear palm print of left & right, such as this case.
It is not about seeing the palm & chart separately, but synergestically.

As a defense, & personal Learning, I had mentioned "Government restriction" & "restriction" (in 3 keywords) for this present time; which I should have given more importance too.
I also mentioned:= the restriction/disappointment could be on some shooting abroad.
His shooting scope has gone for the present.

Having to 'speedbreak' on my present prediction, let us see what 20/21 May 2013 brings (probably regarding movement to the other jail).
Of course, this would be an easy guess.

RishiRahul

Sanjay Dutt was moved to yerwada jail on 22 May 2013.
Jyotish analysis had given 20/21 May 2013 as the supposed movement.

Now let us see, what transpires between 10 -12th. June 2013.
My guess= a better environment; maybe the work he wanted may be given.

RishiRahul

The dates earlier mentioned ie: 10 -12th June brought news about Sanjay Dutts lawyer's family dissapoint=
http://www.hindustantimes.com/India-new ... 75215.aspx

I had mentioned about a better environment for Sanjay Dutt, though this is a grief for him too.

Let us wait for developments arising out of this event between 13th - 17th.
May 2013.

Just an astro hunch.

Strange that on most occasions the dates of important events are predicted; sometimes failing to predict the nature of the event......The reason being an imperfect /unconfirmed birthtime + the native not in touch/communicative touch with me + no proper palm print.

My conviction is that if this can be perfected, then 'Divination'.. atory crafts can be much benefit to society.

RishiRahul

[RishiRahul]

Hi,

Considering approximate birth details:= 29 July 1959 @ approx 14.45 hrs in Mumbai, India.

If the birth chart is precise the following would result; or else the dates
should be adjusted accordingly.

The first 6 to 20 days of April 2013 would bring some news (obviously about the jail thing) which would be adverse/e.g: jail; and also some saving grace/hope involved.
This 'hope; thing would be felt later at end 2013

The Rahu antar being 8th from Al affects image + transit ketu in Gl does not help to enhance image, & affects A4 adversely= we can expect a/some jail term.

At the positive side= Transit Jupiter enters the 8th. house & favorable from
natal moon= stroke of luck during the transit (june 2013 to May 2014). The Jupiter transit on A10 & UL May/June 2013 onwards is favorable for coming out of the jail term.

This transit Jupiter in Mithuna is also 5th. from Al. Also Saturn dasa begins April 2014 (during the Jupiter transit), & saturn is in Ketu star & Jupiter Sub.
Ketu & Jupiter both are significators of 5th. house & Jupiter is in 12.
Thus significator 5 is the constant factor.
This saturn dasa would give help from her daughter... a sort of happy
confinement/abroad for him.
Happy because Saturn cannot spoil his image (tell me why?) further in the long run, & can only make it firm/stable.For such images to be stable it is expected to take a beating first.

Making corrections with numerology= Oct 2013 to May 2014 would pave the way for the end of jail term.
Putrakarak & amatyakarak gets properly activated around mid 2015....?!

Due to lack of proper palm print more emphatic prediction cannot be made.

RishiRahul

Hello,

http://news.oneindia.in/2013/04/06/sanj ... 87851.html
The above is dated 6 April 2013

Strange that I had mentioned the date 6 to 20.

RishiRahul

Further to the above developments, Sanjay Dutt has requested for 6 months.
The result will be out on 16 April @ around10.30 hrs.

The transit moon in the 2nd. from natal moon, & 8th from natal lagna is not favorable.
Even then, I see some home/comfort being gained here, as also transit Jupiter has moved 20 degrees (last 3rd. portion of Taurus), squaring natal Venus.
The natural benefics Jupiter & Venus are square each other.
Square is not an easy transit; though Jupiter & Venus are hard benefics.

So the gain would not be with hitch/constraint.
(edited later)

Of course, predictions from celebrity charts can be wrong.  :smt003


RishiRahul

Hi,

One months extension freedom given to Sanjay Dutt.

How wonderful Jyotish is: The adverse moon's position, coupled with the 2 great benefics in aspect, but in square which upsets/hinders the progress expected by the benefics....!


May 2013 shows a lack of support to his wishes; even then no imprisonment is seen.
Which may mean that there would be some other wish hurt, like from/due to a foreign visit of some kind/ professional related matter.

Mars sookshma on/around the 9th May 2013 gives activity.

RishiRahul

Strange again that Jyotish is......

News on 10h. May 2013:= (9th. May was predicted above as giving activity)
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/new ... 986334.cms

11/12 May 2013 gives a hopeful positive activity, probably behind the scenes, as rahu sextiles saturn + with jup/venus remaining on moon + mercury in applying aspect to saturn. These aspects are restricted by saturn square sun (govt restriction)=== The positives are more than the negative, but restricting.

The present target date for surrendering is by 18th.May 2013.
No jailing in jail is seen, but more restrictions would be imposed to cause frustration.
Astro numero Hunch= the restriction/disappointment could be on some shooting abroad.

Keeping my fingers crossed.

RishiRahul

Oops! he was jailed on 16th May 2013.

I was wrong in my deduction regarding not being jailed at this time, though I had mentioned/seen that he would be jailed/caged in the present varshaphal year.

I learn from my failures.
Failure can happen when I do not corroborate details with a clear palm print of left & right, such as this case.
It is not about seeing the palm & chart separately, but synergestically.

As a defense, & personal Learning, I had mentioned "Government restriction" & "restriction" (in 3 keywords) for this present time; which I should have given more importance too.
I also mentioned:= the restriction/disappointment could be on some shooting abroad.
His shooting scope has gone for the present.

Having to 'speedbreak' on my present prediction, let us see what 20/21 May 2013 brings (probably regarding movement to the other jail).
Of course, this would be an easy guess.

RishiRahul

Sanjay Dutt was moved to yerwada jail on 22 May 2013.
Jyotish analysis had given 20/21 May 2013 as the supposed movement.

Now let us see, what transpires between 10 -12th. June 2013.
My guess= a better environment; maybe the work he wanted may be given.

RishiRahul

The dates earlier mentioned ie: 10 -12th June brought news about Sanjay Dutts lawyer's family dissapoint=
http://www.hindustantimes.com/India-new ... 75215.aspx

I had mentioned about a better environment for Sanjay Dutt, though this is a grief for him too.

Let us wait for developments arising out of this event between 13th - 17th.
May 2013.

Just an astro hunch.

Strange that on most occasions the dates of important events are predicted; sometimes failing to predict the nature of the event......The reason being an imperfect /unconfirmed birthtime + the native not in touch/communicative touch with me + no proper palm print.

My conviction is that if this can be perfected, then 'Divination'.. atory crafts can be much benefit to society.

RishiRahul

Nothing reported between 10 -12th June 2013. Oh! well..
So many things are not reported.

But after waiting for few days, my hunch says that some better environment/state of mind has happened, however minor.
A divinatory hunch, though.

An astro update:= The upset mind from the 3rd. quarter April 2013 would be over by end July - early Aug 2013; some pull from the 'other side' begins.
Can we expect a temporary respite for Sanjay Dutt then? sparked by developments from 1st week July 2013.

The other side reminds of the 9th house &/or progeny.

RishiRahul


News dated 20 Aug 2013, which says that 20 days back Sanjay Dutt applied for parole for treatment in an undisclosed destination.

20 days back would be 1st. August 2013 (in reference to my above predictions about end July/early Aug......


RishiRahul

[ChanDubai]

RishiRahul Ji,

Did Sunjay Dutt consulted and asked you to Predict? or this is just an academic and forum interest? because I did not see any reply, confirmation or negation from either Sunjay Dutt or his authorized person to this your post / prediction

just curious nothing else

Regards

ChanDubai

[RishiRahul]

RishiRahul Ji,

Did Sunjay Dutt consulted and asked you to Predict? or this is just an academic and forum interest? because I did not see any reply, confirmation or negation from either Sunjay Dutt or his authorized person to this your post / prediction

just curious nothing else

Regards

ChanDubai

Hi chandubai,

If you read my above post dated 13 June 2013, you will understand that Sanjay Dutt did not consult me, nor he is in touch with me.

RishiRahul

[ChanDubai]

Hi Rishi Ji

Thanks for the clarifications..........

Keep posting and predicting

Regards

ChanDubai

RishiRahul Ji,

Did Sunjay Dutt consulted and asked you to Predict? or this is just an academic and forum interest? because I did not see any reply, confirmation or negation from either Sunjay Dutt or his authorized person to this your post / prediction

just curious nothing else

Regards

ChanDubai

Hi chandubai,

If you read my above post dated 13 June 2013, you will understand that Sanjay Dutt did not consult me, nor he is in touch with me.

RishiRahul

[Rohiniranjan]

RishiRahul Ji,

Did Sunjay Dutt consulted and asked you to Predict? or this is just an academic and forum interest? because I did not see any reply, confirmation or negation from either Sunjay Dutt or his authorized person to this your post / prediction

just curious nothing else

Regards

ChanDubai

Hi chandubai,

If you read my above post dated 13 June 2013, you will understand that Sanjay Dutt did not consult me, nor he is in touch with me.

RishiRahul

Rishi,

To anyone following this thread sincerely and seriously, that was pretty obvious and clearly stated by you at the outset.

If someone half-mindedly begins reading a thread from the middle, such confusions are natural. I am sure CD's question was innocent and it is good that he expressed his confusion and you cleared it up

Love and Light!

Rohiniranjan

[RishiRahul]

Rishi,

To anyone following this thread sincerely and seriously, that was pretty obvious and clearly stated by you at the outset.

If someone half-mindedly begins reading a thread from the middle, such confusions are natural. I am sure CD's question was innocent and it is good that he expressed his confusion and you cleared it up

Love and Light!

Rohiniranjan

Dear Dada,

Oh! this does happen sometimes in internet forums.
More in other forums, & less here, thankfully!

And yes. Actually (just to remind others) this thread is the first celebrity prediction I am attempting in public... and...with incomplete details.

Thanks,

Rishi

[RishiRahul]

Hi,

Considering approximate birth details:= 29 July 1959 @ approx 14.45 hrs in Mumbai, India.

If the birth chart is precise the following would result; or else the dates
should be adjusted accordingly.

The first 6 to 20 days of April 2013 would bring some news (obviously about the jail thing) which would be adverse/e.g: jail; and also some saving grace/hope involved.
This 'hope; thing would be felt later at end 2013

The Rahu antar being 8th from Al affects image + transit ketu in Gl does not help to enhance image, & affects A4 adversely= we can expect a/some jail term.

At the positive side= Transit Jupiter enters the 8th. house & favorable from
natal moon= stroke of luck during the transit (june 2013 to May 2014). The Jupiter transit on A10 & UL May/June 2013 onwards is favorable for coming out of the jail term.

This transit Jupiter in Mithuna is also 5th. from Al. Also Saturn dasa begins April 2014 (during the Jupiter transit), & saturn is in Ketu star & Jupiter Sub.
Ketu & Jupiter both are significators of 5th. house & Jupiter is in 12.
Thus significator 5 is the constant factor.
This saturn dasa would give help from her daughter... a sort of happy
confinement/abroad for him.
Happy because Saturn cannot spoil his image (tell me why?) further in the long run, & can only make it firm/stable.For such images to be stable it is expected to take a beating first.

Making corrections with numerology= Oct 2013 to May 2014 would pave the way for the end of jail term.
Putrakarak & amatyakarak gets properly activated around mid 2015....?!

Due to lack of proper palm print more emphatic prediction cannot be made.

RishiRahul

Hello,

http://news.oneindia.in/2013/04/06/sanj ... 87851.html
The above is dated 6 April 2013

Strange that I had mentioned the date 6 to 20.

RishiRahul

Further to the above developments, Sanjay Dutt has requested for 6 months.
The result will be out on 16 April @ around10.30 hrs.

The transit moon in the 2nd. from natal moon, & 8th from natal lagna is not favorable.
Even then, I see some home/comfort being gained here, as also transit Jupiter has moved 20 degrees (last 3rd. portion of Taurus), squaring natal Venus.
The natural benefics Jupiter & Venus are square each other.
Square is not an easy transit; though Jupiter & Venus are hard benefics.

So the gain would not be with hitch/constraint.
(edited later)

Of course, predictions from celebrity charts can be wrong.  :smt003


RishiRahul

Hi,

One months extension freedom given to Sanjay Dutt.

How wonderful Jyotish is: The adverse moon's position, coupled with the 2 great benefics in aspect, but in square which upsets/hinders the progress expected by the benefics....!


May 2013 shows a lack of support to his wishes; even then no imprisonment is seen.
Which may mean that there would be some other wish hurt, like from/due to a foreign visit of some kind/ professional related matter.

Mars sookshma on/around the 9th May 2013 gives activity.

RishiRahul

Strange again that Jyotish is......

News on 10h. May 2013:= (9th. May was predicted above as giving activity)
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/new ... 986334.cms

11/12 May 2013 gives a hopeful positive activity, probably behind the scenes, as rahu sextiles saturn + with jup/venus remaining on moon + mercury in applying aspect to saturn. These aspects are restricted by saturn square sun (govt restriction)=== The positives are more than the negative, but restricting.

The present target date for surrendering is by 18th.May 2013.
No jailing in jail is seen, but more restrictions would be imposed to cause frustration.
Astro numero Hunch= the restriction/disappointment could be on some shooting abroad.

Keeping my fingers crossed.

RishiRahul

Oops! he was jailed on 16th May 2013.

I was wrong in my deduction regarding not being jailed at this time, though I had mentioned/seen that he would be jailed/caged in the present varshaphal year.

I learn from my failures.
Failure can happen when I do not corroborate details with a clear palm print of left & right, such as this case.
It is not about seeing the palm & chart separately, but synergestically.

As a defense, & personal Learning, I had mentioned "Government restriction" & "restriction" (in 3 keywords) for this present time; which I should have given more importance too.
I also mentioned:= the restriction/disappointment could be on some shooting abroad.
His shooting scope has gone for the present.

Having to 'speedbreak' on my present prediction, let us see what 20/21 May 2013 brings (probably regarding movement to the other jail).
Of course, this would be an easy guess.

RishiRahul

Sanjay Dutt was moved to yerwada jail on 22 May 2013.
Jyotish analysis had given 20/21 May 2013 as the supposed movement.

Now let us see, what transpires between 10 -12th. June 2013.
My guess= a better environment; maybe the work he wanted may be given.

RishiRahul

The dates earlier mentioned ie: 10 -12th June brought news about Sanjay Dutts lawyer's family dissapoint=
http://www.hindustantimes.com/India-new ... 75215.aspx

I had mentioned about a better environment for Sanjay Dutt, though this is a grief for him too.

Let us wait for developments arising out of this event between 13th - 17th.
May 2013.

Just an astro hunch.

Strange that on most occasions the dates of important events are predicted; sometimes failing to predict the nature of the event......The reason being an imperfect /unconfirmed birthtime + the native not in touch/communicative touch with me + no proper palm print.

My conviction is that if this can be perfected, then 'Divination'.. atory crafts can be much benefit to society.

RishiRahul

Nothing reported between 10 -12th June 2013. Oh! well..
So many things are not reported.

But after waiting for few days, my hunch says that some better environment/state of mind has happened, however minor.
A divinatory hunch, though.

An astro update:= The upset mind from the 3rd. quarter April 2013 would be over by end July - early Aug 2013; some pull from the 'other side' begins.
Can we expect a temporary respite for Sanjay Dutt then? sparked by developments from 1st week July 2013.

The other side reminds of the 9th house &/or progeny.

RishiRahul


News dated 20 Aug 2013, which says that 20 days back Sanjay Dutt applied for parole for treatment in an undisclosed destination.

20 days back would be 1st. August 2013 (in reference to my above predictions about end July/early Aug 2013.....
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/ente ... 935790.cms

I wonder if Sanjay Dutt was planning this 'applying for parole' from early July 2013....?!


RishiRahul

[RishiRahul]

Hi,

Considering approximate birth details:= 29 July 1959 @ approx 14.45 hrs in Mumbai, India.

If the birth chart is precise the following would result; or else the dates
should be adjusted accordingly.

The first 6 to 20 days of April 2013 would bring some news (obviously about the jail thing) which would be adverse/e.g: jail; and also some saving grace/hope involved.
This 'hope; thing would be felt later at end 2013

The Rahu antar being 8th from Al affects image + transit ketu in Gl does not help to enhance image, & affects A4 adversely= we can expect a/some jail term.

At the positive side= Transit Jupiter enters the 8th. house & favorable from
natal moon= stroke of luck during the transit (june 2013 to May 2014). The Jupiter transit on A10 & UL May/June 2013 onwards is favorable for coming out of the jail term.

This transit Jupiter in Mithuna is also 5th. from Al. Also Saturn dasa begins April 2014 (during the Jupiter transit), & saturn is in Ketu star & Jupiter Sub.
Ketu & Jupiter both are significators of 5th. house & Jupiter is in 12.
Thus significator 5 is the constant factor.
This saturn dasa would give help from her daughter... a sort of happy
confinement/abroad for him.
Happy because Saturn cannot spoil his image (tell me why?) further in the long run, & can only make it firm/stable.For such images to be stable it is expected to take a beating first.

Making corrections with numerology= Oct 2013 to May 2014 would pave the way for the end of jail term.
Putrakarak & amatyakarak gets properly activated around mid 2015....?!

Due to lack of proper palm print more emphatic prediction cannot be made.

RishiRahul

Hello,

http://news.oneindia.in/2013/04/06/sanj ... 87851.html
The above is dated 6 April 2013

Strange that I had mentioned the date 6 to 20.

RishiRahul

Further to the above developments, Sanjay Dutt has requested for 6 months.
The result will be out on 16 April @ around10.30 hrs.

The transit moon in the 2nd. from natal moon, & 8th from natal lagna is not favorable.
Even then, I see some home/comfort being gained here, as also transit Jupiter has moved 20 degrees (last 3rd. portion of Taurus), squaring natal Venus.
The natural benefics Jupiter & Venus are square each other.
Square is not an easy transit; though Jupiter & Venus are hard benefics.

So the gain would not be with hitch/constraint.
(edited later)

Of course, predictions from celebrity charts can be wrong.  :smt003


RishiRahul

Hi,

One months extension freedom given to Sanjay Dutt.

How wonderful Jyotish is: The adverse moon's position, coupled with the 2 great benefics in aspect, but in square which upsets/hinders the progress expected by the benefics....!


May 2013 shows a lack of support to his wishes; even then no imprisonment is seen.
Which may mean that there would be some other wish hurt, like from/due to a foreign visit of some kind/ professional related matter.

Mars sookshma on/around the 9th May 2013 gives activity.

RishiRahul

Strange again that Jyotish is......

News on 10h. May 2013:= (9th. May was predicted above as giving activity)
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/new ... 986334.cms

11/12 May 2013 gives a hopeful positive activity, probably behind the scenes, as rahu sextiles saturn + with jup/venus remaining on moon + mercury in applying aspect to saturn. These aspects are restricted by saturn square sun (govt restriction)=== The positives are more than the negative, but restricting.

The present target date for surrendering is by 18th.May 2013.
No jailing in jail is seen, but more restrictions would be imposed to cause frustration.
Astro numero Hunch= the restriction/disappointment could be on some shooting abroad.

Keeping my fingers crossed.

RishiRahul

Oops! he was jailed on 16th May 2013.

I was wrong in my deduction regarding not being jailed at this time, though I had mentioned/seen that he would be jailed/caged in the present varshaphal year.

I learn from my failures.
Failure can happen when I do not corroborate details with a clear palm print of left & right, such as this case.
It is not about seeing the palm & chart separately, but synergestically.

As a defense, & personal Learning, I had mentioned "Government restriction" & "restriction" (in 3 keywords) for this present time; which I should have given more importance too.
I also mentioned:= the restriction/disappointment could be on some shooting abroad.
His shooting scope has gone for the present.

Having to 'speedbreak' on my present prediction, let us see what 20/21 May 2013 brings (probably regarding movement to the other jail).
Of course, this would be an easy guess.

RishiRahul

Sanjay Dutt was moved to yerwada jail on 22 May 2013.
Jyotish analysis had given 20/21 May 2013 as the supposed movement.

Now let us see, what transpires between 10 -12th. June 2013.
My guess= a better environment; maybe the work he wanted may be given.

RishiRahul

The dates earlier mentioned ie: 10 -12th June brought news about Sanjay Dutts lawyer's family dissapoint=
http://www.hindustantimes.com/India-new ... 75215.aspx

I had mentioned about a better environment for Sanjay Dutt, though this is a grief for him too.

Let us wait for developments arising out of this event between 13th - 17th.
May 2013.

Just an astro hunch.

Strange that on most occasions the dates of important events are predicted; sometimes failing to predict the nature of the event......The reason being an imperfect /unconfirmed birthtime + the native not in touch/communicative touch with me + no proper palm print.

My conviction is that if this can be perfected, then 'Divination'.. atory crafts can be much benefit to society.

RishiRahul

Nothing reported between 10 -12th June 2013. Oh! well..
So many things are not reported.

But after waiting for few days, my hunch says that some better environment/state of mind has happened, however minor.
A divinatory hunch, though.

An astro update:= The upset mind from the 3rd. quarter April 2013 would be over by end July - early Aug 2013; some pull from the 'other side' begins.
Can we expect a temporary respite for Sanjay Dutt then? sparked by developments from 1st week July 2013.

The other side reminds of the 9th house &/or progeny.

RishiRahul


News dated 20 Aug 2013, which says that 20 days back Sanjay Dutt applied for parole for treatment in an undisclosed destination.

20 days back would be 1st. August 2013 (in reference to my above predictions about end July/early Aug 2013.....
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/ente ... 935790.cms

I wonder if Sanjay Dutt was planning this 'applying for parole' from early July 2013....?!


RishiRahul

Looks like 11-12 Sept 2013 may bring news of some parole. Even then no major relief is seen before end Nov 2013. (i had mentioned Nov 2013 earlier in these predictions).

Even if parole is granted now it will be under severe restrictions.

RishiRahul

[Rohiniranjan]

Hi Rishi,

This thread has grown very large and complex
Did you ever share what the possible astrological reasons were that describe the circumstances which led to this famous indian associating with crime world (or whatever his criminal participation was) and roughly over what period (planetary periods?) that describe the budding of the activities that led to the punishment and public fall from grace?

If too time consuming, no problem, please ignore the curiosity.

Regards,

Rohiniranjan

[RishiRahul]

Hi Rishi,

This thread has grown very large and complex
Did you ever share what the possible astrological reasons were that describe the circumstances which led to this famous indian associating with crime world (or whatever his criminal participation was) and roughly over what period (planetary periods?) that describe the budding of the activities that led to the punishment and public fall from grace?

If too time consuming, no problem, please ignore the curiosity.

Regards,

Rohiniranjan

Dear Dada,

Nice idea to try this. These are quite difficult things just from the birthchart.

At first, I am reminded of the atmakarak, Jupiter.

At hind sight what I notice is that the signs of Jupiter, Sagitarius & Pisces has ketu & Saturn posited in it.....signifying that the lessons in life would be hard & the native's experience would always make him ponder on what is right & what is wrong.

Out of Ketu and Jupiter affecting the atmakarak (in the 12th from lagna), Ketu is posited in the 5th.

5th. Ketu from Lagna or Al does not give a normal life, & this ketu affects the atmakaraks house & A9.

The loss of image began from 1993 having Rahu dasa Shukra antar.
Rahu is in the 8th. from Al (affecting his image). Rahu is in the 11th house which parashara did not like for obvious reasons, & Rahu is the matrikarak (mother/mother figure at the back of the mind).

The 11th Rahu tends to hurt others, sort of. Rahu in house of mercury is not stable. Rahu in the 8th. from Al can lead to fall from grace/image.

Jupiter Mahadasa of the atmakarak was personally difficult as Vimshottari dasas of atmakaraks are,leading to divorces, separations, remariiages, imprisonment.

I did not touch bhavas (disputed areas) & D charts, but just the 12 rasis.

Going to D9 tulya rasi in terms of the karakamsa, Gemini, we find that Ul & A10 in 8th.(karakamsa) rasi, having 'that' 5th. Ketu in 10th.

Can we have yours & others thoughts too?

Rishi

[Rohiniranjan]

Nice! Thanks Rishi.

Regards,

Rohiniranjan

AK particularly when it lands in the 1st house can be troublesome (karako bhav nashaya, see my more detailed article published on boloji or scribd and I think in one of the jyotish magazines a while ago) and gives disease, disgrace etc but those lead to an awakening for the nativity. Which shall be seen more clearly after Nov 2013 in SDutt, as well as ill health. In his case it will be a more spiritual awakening (ketu in fifth on dharma pada) though the agent of change would be shani (vakra) so lessons will be hard and personal. As an aside, his kemadruma moon is a bit of an enigma, which gets explained when we look at the bhava arrangement.

Kishore Kumar when he got jailed in 1963 (Income tax reasons and enmity developed with the producer of half-ticket; KK was a rather eccentric man. Very interesting chart of a creative genius!!) also had activation of the 9th pada. His was in the 7th (public view, fame, romantic affairs) where venus is placed. His AK is not directly involved but in bhava gets placed in the 7th pada zone.

[notes added by RR]

[Votive]

Sanjay Dutt was first arrested on April 26, 1993.

The first terrorist incident in Indian hinterland were the terrosist blasts in Bombay on Mar 12, 1993 (akin to the 9/11 of 2001 in USA). More than 300 people died.

The incident triggered by the notorious Dawood Ibrahim and others has subsequently brought in dozens of terrorist incidents in India. Sanjay Dutt, and this is the evidence on record upheld even by the Supreme Court, was in live contact with Anees Ibrahim, the brother of Dawood andknew of large scale smuggling of arms, recovered from his possesion too. Probably in any other system he would be in prison from then till now!

However, he has been convicted several times, appealed and finally now a convict for 3 and a half years.

In true contemporary Indian pysche, a celebrity is above the law and so has he remained and the media and others demonstrate a lot of sympathy for him!!

Having said that. All non astrological irrelevant facts as far as this discussion goes but probably his chart could also be looked at from this angle that what ..planets, transits, karakas, have actually been saving from and giving him so much of freedom over this period!


Solitude..now I have recieved!

votive

[Rohiniranjan]

Sanjay Dutt was first arrested on April 26, 1993.

The first terrorist incident in Indian hinterland were the terrosist blasts in Bombay on Mar 12, 1993 (akin to the 9/11 of 2001 in USA). More than 300 people died.

The incident triggered by the notorious Dawood Ibrahim and others has subsequently brought in dozens of terrorist incidents in India. Sanjay Dutt, and this is the evidence on record upheld even by the Supreme Court, was in live contact with Anees Ibrahim, the brother of Dawood andknew of large scale smuggling of arms, recovered from his possesion too. Probably in any other system he would be in prison from then till now!

However, he has been convicted several times, appealed and finally now a convict for 3 and a half years.

In true contemporary Indian pysche, a celebrity is above the law and so has he remained and the media and others demonstrate a lot of sympathy for him!!

Having said that. All non astrological irrelevant facts as far as this discussion goes but probably his chart could also be looked at from this angle that what ..planets, transits, karakas, have actually been saving from and giving him so much of freedom over this period!


Solitude..now I have recieved!

votive

Dear Votive ji,

Thanks for injecting a very realistic aspect to this thread which Rishi Rahul ji has gotten some of us tied into and by
I was thinking from a preventive or leading angle (what leads people to get into such messes that can destroy ones high profile and even career such as we are seeing here in the horrendous misappropriation of travel claims by our Senate members, two of whom ironically used to be high profile media and news host and were at the other end of the stick for decades!). But it is true! What is it that seems to *protect* such high profile folks from judicial scrutiny. Through an astrological lens. All this, while remaining aware that the data we are working with might be wrong in the first place!

Jupiter the atmakaraka is in the 12th sign (whole sign) but creeps into the first house (equal house div), or is in the viscinity of lagna cusp (barely above 10 degrees) for sure! Jupiter is a benefic for scorpio but placed in the house of loss where the sukha/matri pada is placed. Not the best placement for atmakaraka. Lots of inner turmoil existed (during developmental phase, teens, bad company etc). Matrikaraka rahu is placed in 8th from the 4th in the company of gulika. Mother was a person from filmworld, of progressive nature, different culture and religion which I believe fits, Also early in rahu dasa-bhukti, Sanjay lost his mother. A fairly good performer, he gained a lot from movies but rahu-ketu axis on 5th-11th and gulika's association makes a person have bad company, bad leanings and affects scruples (conscience). He is probably quite an arrogant man (under the mask!).

The massacre (why are those increasing steadily all over the globe these past little while? Perhaps subject of another thread!) took place in 1993 but it must have been going on for a while and might even have brewed slowly as he got into it deeper and deeper!

Rahu is in the star of moon which is placed in the revealed 7th house where friendship-related padas are located. Atmakaraka retro mercury is (pardon my detour...) close to uranus who is placed between a budha-aditya yoga! Just something interesting as a margin-note Perhaps after autumn on 1987 when the influence of bad companions might have started leading to the mess. Drug experimentation or worse might be likely (fairly common in show-biz everywhere). Just by the known dates etc, Rahu seems to be the influence that got him involved and kept protected and so on, is what I would say if I was one who believe in blame-shifting to the planets (mars did this, jupiter did that!). The indications are there.

Jupiter from end of 1997 probably brought increasingly evidence to the fore and if that matches with the actual events from a juridic point of perspective, although in the chart jupiter is the weaker planet being devoid of vimshopaka bala, poor in dignity and avasthas! But it is atmakaraka and causes physical and mental anguish and at the same time is meant to open the nativity's eyes, and see himself in clearer light! It is ironical that only in rahu's bhukti, the axe finally fell. What pointed to the way of crime, is now pointing to the way of redemption, in a spiritual sense, From a physical, social way, there are difficult times ahead for the gentleman. Relatives and close family will be supportive, though.

FWIW, the above are the patterns I see, at this time, given the data and information etc.

Regards,

Rohiniranjan