Discussion : can Tantra, black magic change your life

[sutradhar]

Hi,
I myself is an astrologer. I want to have debate over  Can tantra, black magic change your life ?

[RishiRahul]

Well, interesting!

Whats your take on this?

Some questions from my side too:
Can we change Nature?   As the stories go, when someone tried to play with nature by trying to affect it  was the consequences good?

RishiRahul

[jigyasu]

ya its like molesting nature.
you are are tied to nature.
so cause and effect will take you in.

ofcourse thats my drishtikona (point of view).

[babulupmg]

Change in life means change in mind and mental  activities.

For this we must submit our minds.  (Strong Belief)

These are like our Santhi Prakriyas.

If these things wont work they wont exist.

At the same time thess wont work equally on every person.

Different Rupas are helpfuk different persons.

It can be known from 5th house in a horoscope.

We can study these things from PrasnaMarga, Santhi kamalakar Etc.

[sutradhar]

babulu I request you to elaborate on what u have said.
To others :
The question i raised is just followed by others.
There are occassions when the horoscope readings totally wayward and there is no error in time. We say something is done be it tantra etc.

If remedies can change your life. Then everybody should be happy even a beggar will borrow money to buy shri yantra, dakshinavarti shankh etc etc.
wht is free will and what is destiny then.
regards
neeraj kharbanda

[RishiRahul]

babulu I request you to elaborate on what u have said.
To others :
The question i raised is just followed by others.
There are occassions when the horoscope readings totally wayward and there is no error in time. We say something is done be it tantra etc.

If remedies can change your life. Then everybody should be happy even a beggar will borrow money to buy shri yantra, dakshinavarti shankh etc etc.
wht is free will and what is destiny then.
regards
neeraj kharbanda

Remedies help to control our mind and give it confidence/comfort.. so that we are more contented. See  our minds work better if it feels more stable. Soo, it cant chage our lives, but can better it.

RishiRahul

[sutradhar]

what about maran, ucchatan prayogs ?

[RishiRahul]

http://mysticboard.org/ve ... pects.html

The above thread could be seen, as this was in a way discussed before.

RishiRahul

[Raman Deep Singh]

Dear sutradhar ji
you can also visit this topic...Where there was a bit of discussion about this topic
http://mysticboard.org/ve ... 1&start=40

I will also like to take your attention to sumthing which is said by KN Rao ji in his book on Nehru Dynasty


I have written in my book, the Nehru Dynasty that he had said many times that Indira Gandhi was making all-important announcements in muhurtas and nakshatras preferred by Tantriks. I have given many illustrations."This becomes very fatal. Such karma destroys whole family. It is now proven correct historically. First her son, Sanjay Gandhi(23 June 1980), Indira Gandhi herself (31 October, 1984) and Rajiv Gandhi (21 May 1991) died violent death. Perhaps, the flickering flame of the Nehru Dynasty will glow again, but dimly, when Sonia Gandhi enters politics.

So you see these things does have repercussions......Also i belive that we cant alter destiny be it in good or bad way
though we can add on to our strength or reduce the native's strength thus making him more prone to negativity....

It is very well know example about all this..though mentioned in postive manner but we can understand it for negative side also:-
All remedies act like an umbrella thus they dont stop rain but provide you a strength or covering under which you can be more secure than otherwise though you still get rain drops on you, on you lower portion of body but you still get saved may be little may be more but ya you do. depends how big or small you umbrella is

I hope i was bit clear

Regards,
Raman