is this irreversible ?
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is this irreversible ?
we broke up on 22/06
he wasnt over his ex and he was afraid to get hurt so he started isoleting himself and tried to make me angry so i would leave him .
i had patience but not anymore , since he started flirting other women .
this was very convinient because he accused me of jealousy and i broke him up . i tried to talk again to him but i think now he is about to let go the pain for his ex .
is our break up irreversible ?
he wasnt over his ex and he was afraid to get hurt so he started isoleting himself and tried to make me angry so i would leave him .
i had patience but not anymore , since he started flirting other women .
this was very convinient because he accused me of jealousy and i broke him up . i tried to talk again to him but i think now he is about to let go the pain for his ex .
is our break up irreversible ?
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Hi littledee.. http://mysticboard.org/pr ... le&u=49018
using another name to cheat the system for more readings that is otherwise allowed is just plain silly on a forum frequented by psychics.
using another name to cheat the system for more readings that is otherwise allowed is just plain silly on a forum frequented by psychics.
You are Me, ruler of 1st house and Moon. He is Ju rx, ruler of 7 house. Rx usually mean he will return, but lets see what chart tells.
To see if your break up is irreversible we look for applaying aspect between rulers and we do not find any. So, answer to your question is NO.That also confirms mutable signs on angles so change is on horizon.
To see if your break up is irreversible we look for applaying aspect between rulers and we do not find any. So, answer to your question is NO.That also confirms mutable signs on angles so change is on horizon.
hello and thank you very much for your help !
the truth is this question was a few weeks ago , but i think its still on ? the question lasts for 3 months ive read .
i understand there are no aspects beween us so that is no .
im quite confused by your last sentence , what do you mean when you say a change is in the horizon ? you meant that explained the break up ?
forgive if my english is not that good and i cant quite understand you...
thanx again , take care ...
the truth is this question was a few weeks ago , but i think its still on ? the question lasts for 3 months ive read .
i understand there are no aspects beween us so that is no .
im quite confused by your last sentence , what do you mean when you say a change is in the horizon ? you meant that explained the break up ?
forgive if my english is not that good and i cant quite understand you...
thanx again , take care ...
I think it will be change and he will come back to you. It is all about how you phrased question; you ask "is this real end" and because there are no aspect answer is "no" and because his ruler is rx and because of mutable sign on angles you can expect change of carrent situation. (Usually person signified with rx ruler change her/his mind...)
I agree with fensi - his fourth house ( the natural 10th
house - 7th plus 4 = 10 ) has the part of
fortune ( in Gemini ) displaced by Mercury - and you
are represented by Mercury - as if he considers it
the long term future to be associated with you.
Your fourth house is ruled by Jupiter which represents him
another long term positive for this chart.
Saturn is in the first house so answer to this question
will be rewarding no matter what change occurs and
change is as fensi says pretty sure with mutable
signs on the angles and Uranus in the 7th....
The answer is no to your question but good change
occurring and probably another look in a few months
will be revealing.
house - 7th plus 4 = 10 ) has the part of
fortune ( in Gemini ) displaced by Mercury - and you
are represented by Mercury - as if he considers it
the long term future to be associated with you.
Your fourth house is ruled by Jupiter which represents him
another long term positive for this chart.
Saturn is in the first house so answer to this question
will be rewarding no matter what change occurs and
change is as fensi says pretty sure with mutable
signs on the angles and Uranus in the 7th....
The answer is no to your question but good change
occurring and probably another look in a few months
will be revealing.
Airgon thank you very much for your help !
i was thinking that we met when jupiter and uranus were in late degrees in pisces so maybe now that they ll be both be back in pisces we have a chance again... uranus was in accurate conjuction to his moon so i think that has got to be important .
maybe he needed this time to clear his feelings , i now know that i needed this time to look inside if its just a fling for me or love .
thank you everyone for the information , i didnt know that about mutable signs , good to know !
ps since i broke him off , do you think ill be the one contacting and bringing us back together or him ? probably am asking much and cant tell by this horary ...?
take care ..
i was thinking that we met when jupiter and uranus were in late degrees in pisces so maybe now that they ll be both be back in pisces we have a chance again... uranus was in accurate conjuction to his moon so i think that has got to be important .
maybe he needed this time to clear his feelings , i now know that i needed this time to look inside if its just a fling for me or love .
thank you everyone for the information , i didnt know that about mutable signs , good to know !
ps since i broke him off , do you think ill be the one contacting and bringing us back together or him ? probably am asking much and cant tell by this horary ...?
take care ..
Jupiter is retrograde going direct Nov 18th, 2010 and Jupiter
is his significator ... so probably a return around that date
Timing being not a strong point in horary - but around
that time and being conjunct to Uranus - with Modern
rulership putting Uranus as ruling Aquarius - so probably
some confused detailed negotiations going on with
Neptune around the 6th...
Gently does it I would say :)
is his significator ... so probably a return around that date
Timing being not a strong point in horary - but around
that time and being conjunct to Uranus - with Modern
rulership putting Uranus as ruling Aquarius - so probably
some confused detailed negotiations going on with
Neptune around the 6th...
Gently does it I would say :)
i thought that too about the conjuction uranus - jupiter ...
thanx for the time frame - even though i understand its difficult to give time in horary .
please , again forgive me about my english - i dont understand your these sentences ... could you explain ? i would be greatfull ...
thank you very much !
"so probably
some confused detailed negotiations going on with
Neptune around the 6th...
Gently does it I would say "
thanx for the time frame - even though i understand its difficult to give time in horary .
please , again forgive me about my english - i dont understand your these sentences ... could you explain ? i would be greatfull ...
thank you very much !
"so probably
some confused detailed negotiations going on with
Neptune around the 6th...
Gently does it I would say "
Neptune is conjunct the 6th house in Aquarius
ruled by Uranus ( all Modern rulers and planets
here, of course ) - Uranus appears to be a part
of the solution as Uranus is in the 7th - which
describes your significant other.
So Neptune who "confuses" and is in the 6th of
"details" will probably cause a great deal of
discussion to create some kind of a bridge
to certainty. Pluto is in the 4th house -
Pluto is the transformer and is in an applying
sextile to the 6th House ... so we expect some
kind of confusion ( Neptune ) that affects
through transformation ( Pluto ) by positive
interaction ( applying sextile Pluto to 6th
House which has Neptune ).
I guess I would just be aware that if any
discussion gets to focused on apparant
insignificant details then this is not about
the details but about creating a new
( changed because of the mutable angles )
approach to each other.
Real gentleness is required as Mars - which
displaces his significator Jupiter - is in the
first house and conjunct the Ascendant.
If I was doing a rectification ( using western
techniques ) then if a client had an operation
with Mars close to an angle like the Ascendant
I would know I am on the right track as Mars
and especially the Ascendant conjunct is
a strong indicator of accidents, surgery and
similar events but often maleafic events.
So Mars displacing Jupiter is going to have
some effect .. being gentle will hopefully
prevent any maleafic issues. Really it needs
to be handled by waiting until he actually
approaches you and then asking a new
question ( Horary or whatever you
prefer ) and then linking this chart to the
new question...
Does this help ?
ruled by Uranus ( all Modern rulers and planets
here, of course ) - Uranus appears to be a part
of the solution as Uranus is in the 7th - which
describes your significant other.
So Neptune who "confuses" and is in the 6th of
"details" will probably cause a great deal of
discussion to create some kind of a bridge
to certainty. Pluto is in the 4th house -
Pluto is the transformer and is in an applying
sextile to the 6th House ... so we expect some
kind of confusion ( Neptune ) that affects
through transformation ( Pluto ) by positive
interaction ( applying sextile Pluto to 6th
House which has Neptune ).
I guess I would just be aware that if any
discussion gets to focused on apparant
insignificant details then this is not about
the details but about creating a new
( changed because of the mutable angles )
approach to each other.
Real gentleness is required as Mars - which
displaces his significator Jupiter - is in the
first house and conjunct the Ascendant.
If I was doing a rectification ( using western
techniques ) then if a client had an operation
with Mars close to an angle like the Ascendant
I would know I am on the right track as Mars
and especially the Ascendant conjunct is
a strong indicator of accidents, surgery and
similar events but often maleafic events.
So Mars displacing Jupiter is going to have
some effect .. being gentle will hopefully
prevent any maleafic issues. Really it needs
to be handled by waiting until he actually
approaches you and then asking a new
question ( Horary or whatever you
prefer ) and then linking this chart to the
new question...
Does this help ?
yes this actually helps much !
and on time cause i was just thinking i should make a move - ive cut him off from my facebook , msn and access to my blog .
he still can email me and phone me though , if he wants to make a contact i guess . I thought i should invite him back in facebook and msn but that seems
like im a coward or something so ill just let him come to me .
this chart was posted on 3rd of august and one day later i sent him an email just to clear some things up because the decision for the break up , i know i made it without thinkiing clearly . In this mail i wished him luck and well being and explained what his actions were that i felt that he secretly wanted us over and i felt he wasnt ready for us . He replied saying sorry for the pain he caused me , and that he was in pain too , not ready to talk to me again and that maybe sometime we can be friends again and have a chat , laugh etc ...
so i really thought today and i didnt do any action cause that would just irritate him ... so it fits perfect what you say that it needs careful handling ...
ill let him choose me , otherwise ill be stuck with the idea that he ll always love his ex ...
it also makes sense that all this confusion has a transformation effect , i feel like a phoenix rising from my flames ...
what also worries me is if we are as strong as i thought and felt .... is his ex the love of his life ? should i wait and take him back or am i losing my time ?
maybe i should post a synastry chart what do you thing ? or i could post another horary with the exact question above ?
thank you so much for your patience and support !
take care!
and on time cause i was just thinking i should make a move - ive cut him off from my facebook , msn and access to my blog .
he still can email me and phone me though , if he wants to make a contact i guess . I thought i should invite him back in facebook and msn but that seems
like im a coward or something so ill just let him come to me .
this chart was posted on 3rd of august and one day later i sent him an email just to clear some things up because the decision for the break up , i know i made it without thinkiing clearly . In this mail i wished him luck and well being and explained what his actions were that i felt that he secretly wanted us over and i felt he wasnt ready for us . He replied saying sorry for the pain he caused me , and that he was in pain too , not ready to talk to me again and that maybe sometime we can be friends again and have a chat , laugh etc ...
so i really thought today and i didnt do any action cause that would just irritate him ... so it fits perfect what you say that it needs careful handling ...
ill let him choose me , otherwise ill be stuck with the idea that he ll always love his ex ...
it also makes sense that all this confusion has a transformation effect , i feel like a phoenix rising from my flames ...
what also worries me is if we are as strong as i thought and felt .... is his ex the love of his life ? should i wait and take him back or am i losing my time ?
maybe i should post a synastry chart what do you thing ? or i could post another horary with the exact question above ?
thank you so much for your patience and support !
take care!
At this point, I generally start looking at issues contained
in the progressed horary, natal, progressed natal chart.
If you have his chart then also his natal, progressed etc.,
and then synastric issues as a final summation.
One of the issues very seldom discussed is that one
can have a new start sometimes with someone which
creates a new natal chart for the relationship. This
is fairly complex but you can observe it often in
childhood relationships as each member of the
relationship goes through multiple different stages
of their life. Later as they look back they just
say something like "That was before...", or perhaps
"We are different now..." probably indicating a
new natal beginning for the relationship itself
complimentary to each members natal but
able to supply its own momentum to create
what each member wants.
Always a lot in astrology :)
in the progressed horary, natal, progressed natal chart.
If you have his chart then also his natal, progressed etc.,
and then synastric issues as a final summation.
One of the issues very seldom discussed is that one
can have a new start sometimes with someone which
creates a new natal chart for the relationship. This
is fairly complex but you can observe it often in
childhood relationships as each member of the
relationship goes through multiple different stages
of their life. Later as they look back they just
say something like "That was before...", or perhaps
"We are different now..." probably indicating a
new natal beginning for the relationship itself
complimentary to each members natal but
able to supply its own momentum to create
what each member wants.
Always a lot in astrology :)
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