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Doe wrote:I honestly have no idea whether it's possible for someone to "learn" to be able to see and communicate with spirits.
J: As carefully pointed out - all mediums are psychic - these abilities are available to all human beings. Of course, they are stronger in some than others, of that there is no doubt, just like any talent or skill.
With me--as I've mentioned elsewhere here--it came out of the blue relatively late in my life (maybe it was latent all along, but it had never really occurred to me to try). Once it does start, though, it's REALLY important to have good guidance and an open mind not encumbered with preconceived notions as to what it's all about, or how things work, or what the spirit world is really like.
J: If you don't 'know' anything about it, you do the strange and dangerous before the tried and true of the talent. That is leading someone who is very new astray. Just because it opened for you, you have no means of finding out if it is good advice or not, because you are enamored with what comes. (From your personal inspirations it is obvious)
The spirit world is welcomed and has written about what the spirit realms are like. To ignore the good advice is to ignore who, what, where, why, how of mediumship. Leading the newcomer in that direction is courting dangerous activities.
You can read all you want about it, and you may get some helpful information from others who have experienced it, but I believe that the best way to learn is through your own experiences and the help of those in the spirit world who are willing to help you learn (and trying to sort out who is really there to help you, and who might be just "messing with you" is a challenge in itself!).
J: And that is what was advised in the first place. Test the spirits. Have good tried and true meditation methods to reach the highest possible source of light. If they do not come in light, they do not come through a good medium.
I have come to think that it's important for someone who's interested in trying to gain the ability to think very seriously about WHY they would like to be able to do it. It's not something to be taken lightly, or pursued because one thinks it might be "fun", profitable, or just kinda cool. There's a lot of responsibility that goes with it, and it's sometimes very much NOT fun, or cool. It can be very sad and, if you're not used to to it, frightening.
J: Couldn't agree more that the importance of why is good. Spirituality is the first step in spiritual mediumship. The more you understand your own spirituality, the more it will be a spiritual exercise. This, too, comes with opening to caring, loving spirit guides - not just anyone who has not elevated themselves but comes back to guide the gullible.
I believe that if you've been given the ability, it's so that you can help others with it--again, not to try to "see the future" with the help of the spirit world, or gain from it materially, etc.
J: That is surely a commendable activity. But as spirit realms have some idea of the projects they wish to do with spirit helping earth dwellers, we need to be open to their purposes and agendas as well. We all have free will to choose whether the project suits our lives or not. Many people struggle with their spirit guidance long and hard before commiting their talents and abilities to spirit's agenda.
Most of the spirits I talk to are the very lost, very frightened, and sometimes very angry souls of people who lived at one point just as we all do. Trying to use them as props or ways to gain notoriety is insensitive and cruel; they need help as any desperate person does--given freely and with kindness and understanding. If you can't do that, all the "mediumship skills" that you learn in the world will still likely end in failure, or disaster.
J: Quite frankly 'lost' 'frightened' and 'stuck' spirit is a job for someone who knows what they are doing. NEVER attune to their energy. Attune only to a supportive spirit guide who is there to work on this purpose. You have been extremely lucky as God truly loves and shields the blind.
So that's my personal take on it. Before a person starts trying to figure out the "how" of it, it's much more important to understand the "why", and if you're really prepared to treat it as a gift that you're willing to share with those who really need it, with no thought of any kind of reward. Bottom line--what most of them need is love and understanding; ask yourself if you can offer that before anything else.
J: This is truly another judgemental statement of to charge or not. Many people give up their entire life and career to follow spirit. The income they need to live has to come from somewhere. To charge for services rendered in a world of exchange is never out of place. Those who over charge will get what they deserve in the end and it won't be pretty. But that is in God's hands, not any self appointed judge on earth.
Doe
Ouch! This hurts me to read. Why all this???? Are we not hear to share and learn from our own experience? Are we not all teacher and student? If you both were to set up your own courses I would attend both! And filter from it what I wish to. I respect and love to read both of your posts. I have learned from both of you. And look forward to more.spiritalk wrote:Doe wrote:I honestly have no idea whether it's possible for someone to "learn" to be able to see and communicate with spirits.
J: As carefully pointed out - all mediums are psychic - these abilities are available to all human beings. Of course, they are stronger in some than others, of that there is no doubt, just like any talent or skill.
With me--as I've mentioned elsewhere here--it came out of the blue relatively late in my life (maybe it was latent all along, but it had never really occurred to me to try). Once it does start, though, it's REALLY important to have good guidance and an open mind not encumbered with preconceived notions as to what it's all about, or how things work, or what the spirit world is really like.
J: If you don't 'know' anything about it, you do the strange and dangerous before the tried and true of the talent. That is leading someone who is very new astray. Just because it opened for you, you have no means of finding out if it is good advice or not, because you are enamored with what comes. (From your personal inspirations it is obvious)
The spirit world is welcomed and has written about what the spirit realms are like. To ignore the good advice is to ignore who, what, where, why, how of mediumship. Leading the newcomer in that direction is courting dangerous activities.
You can read all you want about it, and you may get some helpful information from others who have experienced it, but I believe that the best way to learn is through your own experiences and the help of those in the spirit world who are willing to help you learn (and trying to sort out who is really there to help you, and who might be just "messing with you" is a challenge in itself!).
J: And that is what was advised in the first place. Test the spirits. Have good tried and true meditation methods to reach the highest possible source of light. If they do not come in light, they do not come through a good medium.
I have come to think that it's important for someone who's interested in trying to gain the ability to think very seriously about WHY they would like to be able to do it. It's not something to be taken lightly, or pursued because one thinks it might be "fun", profitable, or just kinda cool. There's a lot of responsibility that goes with it, and it's sometimes very much NOT fun, or cool. It can be very sad and, if you're not used to to it, frightening.
J: Couldn't agree more that the importance of why is good. Spirituality is the first step in spiritual mediumship. The more you understand your own spirituality, the more it will be a spiritual exercise. This, too, comes with opening to caring, loving spirit guides - not just anyone who has not elevated themselves but comes back to guide the gullible.
I believe that if you've been given the ability, it's so that you can help others with it--again, not to try to "see the future" with the help of the spirit world, or gain from it materially, etc.
J: That is surely a commendable activity. But as spirit realms have some idea of the projects they wish to do with spirit helping earth dwellers, we need to be open to their purposes and agendas as well. We all have free will to choose whether the project suits our lives or not. Many people struggle with their spirit guidance long and hard before commiting their talents and abilities to spirit's agenda.
Most of the spirits I talk to are the very lost, very frightened, and sometimes very angry souls of people who lived at one point just as we all do. Trying to use them as props or ways to gain notoriety is insensitive and cruel; they need help as any desperate person does--given freely and with kindness and understanding. If you can't do that, all the "mediumship skills" that you learn in the world will still likely end in failure, or disaster.
J: Quite frankly 'lost' 'frightened' and 'stuck' spirit is a job for someone who knows what they are doing. NEVER attune to their energy. Attune only to a supportive spirit guide who is there to work on this purpose. You have been extremely lucky as God truly loves and shields the blind.
So that's my personal take on it. Before a person starts trying to figure out the "how" of it, it's much more important to understand the "why", and if you're really prepared to treat it as a gift that you're willing to share with those who really need it, with no thought of any kind of reward. Bottom line--what most of them need is love and understanding; ask yourself if you can offer that before anything else.
J: This is truly another judgemental statement of to charge or not. Many people give up their entire life and career to follow spirit. The income they need to live has to come from somewhere. To charge for services rendered in a world of exchange is never out of place. Those who over charge will get what they deserve in the end and it won't be pretty. But that is in God's hands, not any self appointed judge on earth.
Doe
This site is for teaching good mediumship skills to keep the seeker safe and protected in an unseen world. To offer such advice is out of line with the course being offered. Perhaps you could set up your own course at the Mystic Academy?
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